Best mono amp to drive a w7 13"

[SoEm0]

Ill hit up my buddy. See what I can do.

[StereoInstaller1]

If you have a connection with Diablo, get hold of a set of their upper end 5" components.

I have seen them on www.made-in-china.com, but can't find anyone selling them.

[SoEm0]

lol man this is so true. I used to have a list of amps from many different manufacturers that used the exact same cheap ass internals. There is nothing worse then thinking you are buying a high end amp and finding it was made it china/ taiwan. My buddy was one of the original guys behind Diablo amps, but after he left they went to crap. I used to have a $1000 Diablo amp that had nearly identical internals as another cheap no name brand amp I had made in China. Man I am glad I don't have to pay cash for Diablo LOL.

[StereoInstaller1]

Part of the issue is that those brands aren't owned by the same people or made by the same people anymore. PPI in 1989 was bad ass, military grade, bulletproof top quality shit, now the name is owned by DEI and the shit is all 100% chinese made...on the same assembly line that make about 65% of the car amps made in China, no matter what brand name is on it.

In fact, if you pull covers off of most any Taiwanese amp (like the cheap JL stuff or whatever) they use the same boards on most all of their amps.

I pulled a cover off a DLS amp, supposed to be $900 top end shit. It said "Product of Denmark", but did not say where it was made anywhere...except the circuit board, where it proudly said 'Made in Taiwan". Then, I pulled the cover off a cheap "Pwer Reference" series amp from Memphis, all of which is labeled "made in taiwan"...clearly, the exact same amp, but sold for $350

90% of all car audio is just like this. Most of it is just fine, but if 2 amps are the same product, why pay extra because it says "JL AUDIO" or whatever on the sticker.

[b*saint]

I never got into audio that much so I dont know those brands. All I know is what was top of the line at Circuit City back in the day.

[StereoInstaller1]

Agreed, and that is a good deal. The Tantrums are generally solid performers.

[ejnight]

MB Quart amps have never been in the league of Zapco, old PPL or even older PG IMO. I have a PG tantrum 1200 watt mono block if you want it I would do $200.

[b*saint]

So MB quart is only good if its old school?

[StereoInstaller1]

New PPI is Taiwan, step down from Chinese IMO

[5Toes]

Tru stuff is amazing looking.

New PPI has a great features set though

[StereoInstaller1]

I have 2 cars with Exile amps, far superior to most any other Chinese amp, but nothing like Zapco, ARC (US made ARC that is) old Orion, real PPI, even Xtant...or Tru.

1/3rd the price though...$450 is a pile of cash for an amp to some of these guys. Hell, I have that is RCAs alone.

[bmwman91]

It is sad what has become of MBQ. I run one of their amps, and while I haven't had problems, taking it apart revealed that it is in fact nothing special at all. Cheap components, typical build quality, crappy channel gain matching...but same old price tag.

[StereoInstaller1]

Step up to Tru technologies.

MB Quart amps are 100% made in Taiwan these days

[alpinee30m50]

Sundown Saz-1000D. I got one powering my FI BL at .5 ohm and my headlights barely dim while im flexing my sunroof a quarter inch on the stock electrical system :D

[b*saint]

Im looking for something with good quality like an MB Quart or a JL. Any suggestions?