Front mounted sub

[P.Kelly]

Send back that POS Pioneer before you even get it. It is a miserable pile of shit.

Have you used one of the Pioneer 8" shallow mounts? I have it free-air at the moment and it adds a nice amount of depth to the otherwise lacking 5 1/4" components up front. I wouldn't describe it as a POS. Maybe not a jack hammer, but I'm looking for SQ not dB.

Installed my amp rack and components over the weekend. I went with an older set of Alpine SPX-137a, as I had the 173s in a previous car. They sound nice, but don't handle the lows anywhere near as nice as the 6.5", big surprise.

[StereoInstaller1]

Yeah, I have done 4 or 5 of them. Poor power handling, very poor SQ, just a muddy thump if that. I get 10000X better bass out of a $50 woofer in one of my 8" boxes. At least in an infinite baffle install they should play fairly low, right? Just that little bit of bottom if that is all you are looking for, but certainly nothing you are ever gonna feel.

[accident]

I've learned that it's best to just do what Luke says. He's never steered me wrong.

[P.Kelly]

Yeah, I have done 4 or 5 of them. Poor power handling, very poor SQ, just a muddy thump if that. I get 10000X better bass out of a $50 woofer in one of my 8" boxes. At least in an infinite baffle install they should play fairly low, right? Just that little bit of bottom if that is all you are looking for, but certainly nothing you are ever gonna feel.

However, since I have an auto top vert one of your boxes isn't an option... So, I'm looking for info on shallow subs. I hadn't seen any posts from you previously on the Pioneer shallow, so I wasn't sure if you had made a custom box to its specs and determined it was crap, or if you had simply heard someone else's crappy box, thus determining that the Pioneer was crap(if you catch my meaning).

Yes, in infinite baffle it plays very low, but not very tight. I was hoping that a small slot ported box might help with that, and still tuck nicley under the carpet. It certainly adds a TON of depth to the soundstage the way it is, and it hits a little but is not a monster by any means. For $50 it seemed like a decent value, since I need shallow.

Again, thanks for the feedback, it is much appreciated.

[StereoInstaller1]

However, since I have an auto top vert one of your boxes isn't an option... So, I'm looking for info on shallow subs. I hadn't seen any posts from you previously on the Pioneer shallow, so I wasn't sure if you had made a custom box to its specs and determined it was crap, or if you had simply heard someone else's crappy box, thus determining that the Pioneer was crap(if you catch my meaning).

Yes, in infinite baffle it plays very low, but not very tight. I was hoping that a small slot ported box might help with that, and still tuck nicley under the carpet. It certainly adds a TON of depth to the soundstage the way it is, and it hits a little but is not a monster by any means. For $50 it seemed like a decent value, since I need shallow.

Again, thanks for the feedback, it is much appreciated.

Dude...bring me your car. I need it for 2 weeks.

[Teaguer]

Dude...bring me your ass. I need it for 2 weeks.

Fixed for accuracy.

[P.Kelly]

Fixed for accuracy.

Really, are you twelve? Go crap on someone else's thread.

[P.Kelly]

Dude...bring me your car. I need it for 2 weeks.

If my front sub doesn't do the trick, I'll consider the 13 hour drive, since I have family in the SEA-TAC area, but there is no way I could leave it for 2 weeks. 1 at the best.

[StereoInstaller1]

I bet I could pull if off in 5 days if the weather was decent....and you don't wanna bring that up here in the wet....and Teag was just foolin', there is an ooooold thread somewhere that is just disgusting but hilarious

[P.Kelly]

I've not been around long enough here to know about the old thread, but fair enough.

I guess we'll see how this goes, and then if I don't like it make a trip up in the spring.

[P.Kelly]

Finished up my front mounted subwoofer this weekend. I started by pulling back the carpet and removing the big ass foam block under the passenger footwell. I then used some second skin dampening product, followed by some 1/8" foam isolating material.

Over the top of the foam, I taped and foiled the area and laid up about 3-4 layers of polyester resin and thin choped mat until it was rigid enough to pull out and work on it out of the car. I was able to get about .4 cubic feet (plus the woofer) of air space into a
box ever so slightly larger than the foam block.

[Dade Fresh]

woah

are those bars going to be an issue when that speaker is bumpin?

[P.Kelly]

woah

are those bars going to be an issue when that speaker is bumpin?

Nope. The max excursion of the woofer is very shallow. I've got over an extra .5" between the surface of the woofer and the "grill." They are there just to keep a "well positioned" foot from putting too much pressure on the carpet in the "right" place.

[P.Kelly]

All buttoned up:

[dwvw]

How's it sound?