amp, subs recomendations

[DCColegrove]

Hmmm... I may be going def.

[StereoInstaller1]

Amp?

Subs?

Who needs it. Top of the line Kenwoods in the rear deck and kick panels...plenty of bass. The acoustics of the e30 trunk are positively perfect.

Wow...either you have incredibly low standards or you just don't care or you are deaf...or, hopefully, you are just being sarcastic.

E30s are one of the worst cars in history for sound quality.

[DCColegrove]

Amp?

Subs?

Who needs it. Top of the line Kenwoods in the rear deck and kick panels...plenty of bass. The acoustics of the e30 trunk are positively perfect.

[StereoInstaller1]

Joshua, that is the kind of shit I am talking about...just because it has a $700 price tag does NOT mean it is worth $700...especially when comparable gear from another manufacturer is half that price.

So there is the big bitch...Kicker (and JL, Eclipse, Fosgate and a few others) has always offered a substandard product at ridiculous profit margins, allowing salespeople of offer a HUGE discount (Dude, I can get this for you at HALF PRICE, like you are so fucking special, right?) so everyone gets all pumped up about the "bitchin' deal" their "buddy at the stereo store" got them...but in fact, they got a Korean made amp or woofer at normal retail prices.

In the meantime, can your buddy get you deals on other brands? Post them up!

Luke

[joshuaaa]

yeahh my only real reasoning for considering kicker stuff is one of my buddies can get 75% off all kicker gear.. so a setup that normally would cost 700 is only gonna cost me 175-200.. i still havent made any decisions.. but thankyou for the feedback luke. always good to get advice from those who know what they are talking about.

[StereoInstaller1]

Dammit Andrew, you posted before I flamed the shit out of Kicker. Now I look even more like an ass...thanks, fucker!

Luke

[StereoInstaller1]

Josh, I personally think Kicker is crap. Overpriced, poor sound quality, noisy and un-reliable, I just fucking hate Kicker amps. Shitty EQ, shitty crossover slopes, typical shitty made-in-China crap.

Kicker subs are on my personal hate list too. The moving mass of their 10" subs is higher than several 12" I can think of, the high Q makes for boomy bass in a ported box, with piss poor clarity.

Plus, all of their ultra "Attitude" and "Lifestyle" bullshit ("Living Loud"? Give me a fucking break!) just sickens me. Even Fosgate has classier advertising than Kicker...and that is tacky enough. Kicker has one of the highest profit margins of any major manufacturer, which should tell you something about their product...built in "discount", anyone?

So, before you guys jump my ass for saying what I said, you have to remember you asked for opinions. I am sure bunches of you have a "buddy" who has a "great sounding system" using all Kicker...well, have you heard my car? If you haven't, save your fingers. I assure you that no matter how good your "buddies" system sounds, it would sound better if all of the Kicker crap was pulled and any one of a dozen brands I can think of were installed in its place.

[AndrewBird]

Talk to Luke (StereoInstaller1). He has a group buy going on for sub boxes he is making and I'm sure he could also set you up with an amp and sub to go with it.

[joshuaaa]

so anyone think the Kicker Comp VT Subwoofer 10" sub is nice if i pair it with Kicker ZX.5 5-Channel Amplifier? i want to just build my own ported box and run a tube into the back of my 325es between the 2 current speakers.. any thoughts?

thanks, josh

[joshuaaa]

anyone got any amp/sub reconmendations? help a audio-retarded guy out.. im really just lookin for a 10" to increase the bass sound while not so much looking for rattleing of my car..