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  • TimeMachinE30
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    • Jun 2014
    • 3749

    #571
    I need to lift up my vert from the JOMs.

    Looking to do something family friendly, not worry of scraping the pan.

    I am not race car.
    Nor do I want stock gap.

    Would the HR vert springs and billy's do the trick?
    ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34

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    • phenryiv1
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      • Jul 2009
      • 3246

      #572
      Originally posted by TimeMachinE30
      I need to lift up my vert from the JOMs.

      Looking to do something family friendly, not worry of scraping the pan.

      I am not race car.
      Nor do I want stock gap.

      Would the HR vert springs and billy's do the trick?
      Dude...



      Did you actually read this thread before posting? The reason that I ask is that there are 2 full photo sets of that exact setup within the last 2 pages.





      Those are just MY posts...before those there are dozens more with the same setup. Only you can decide if that look is what you want. The gap is much lower than stock and not as low as H&R Race or very low coilovers.
      Patrick Henry

      1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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      • TimeMachinE30
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2014
        • 3749

        #573
        Originally posted by phenryiv1
        Dude...



        Did you actually read this thread before posting? The reason that I ask is that there are 2 full photo sets of that exact setup within the last 2 pages.





        Those are just MY posts...before those there are dozens more with the same setup. Only you can decide if that look is what you want. The gap is much lower than stock and not as low as H&R Race or very low coilovers.
        You sure put a lot of time into responding.

        My question is something not answered by pictures....
        ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34

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        • phenryiv1
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          • Jul 2009
          • 3246

          #574
          Originally posted by TimeMachinE30
          You sure put a lot of time into responding.

          My question is something not answered by pictures....
          Actually, it is. Well, pictures and intelligence.

          Convertible H&R Sports and Bilsteins will not make you (or your car) a racecar.

          They are lower than stock. Pictures show this.

          They are not as low as H&R Race. Pictures show this.

          If your family is heavy you might scrape the pan. On your shitty D.C. streets you might scrape the pan with just a driver in the car. It depends on where in and around D.C. you drive.

          All of your questions were answered in my post. Unless you suck at asking questions, in which case you need to be more specific.
          Patrick Henry

          1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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          • TimeMachinE30
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            • Jun 2014
            • 3749

            #575
            You really go out of your way to be a cocksucker.
            ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34

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            • phenryiv1
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jul 2009
              • 3246

              #576
              Originally posted by TimeMachinE30
              You really go out of your way to be a cocksucker.
              Dude- WTF is your problem? You asked a series of questions where the answers are common knowledge but I answered them anyway. Then you said that the answers are not provided by pictures (they are), but I repeated again the answers to your questions.

              In the end, we can't tell you how YOU will feel about suspension on YOUR car. I gave you my best guess based on my experience on that setup amd my time driving on D.C./DMV roads...and you insult me.

              Go buy a Honda.
              Patrick Henry

              1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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              • ToPLeSS(e30)FeinD
                R3VLimited
                • Jul 2011
                • 2813

                #577
                Originally posted by TimeMachinE30
                You really go out of your way to be a cocksucker.

                You are daft
                '89 Delphin 2.8 Cabrio
                '94 Yamaha FZR 600

                Originally posted by FlexdXJ
                Is that thing on air?

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                • fporro
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1858

                  #578
                  Why not keep you JOM's adjusters/shocks and use correct eight and rate springs from from GC or H&R, so simple
                  Find correct rate for 318 on spring master list http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40472 or close to it, buy them separately as not available as kit anymore.

                  while you at it buy camber/caster plates so it all works the correct way.

                  triple rate baby.




                  Last edited by fporro; 04-20-2015, 05:36 PM.

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                  • TimeMachinE30
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 3749

                    #579
                    Originally posted by phenryiv1
                    Dude- WTF is your problem? You asked a series of questions where the answers are common knowledge but I answered them anyway. Then you said that the answers are not provided by pictures (they are), but I repeated again the answers to your questions.

                    In the end, we can't tell you how YOU will feel about suspension on YOUR car. I gave you my best guess based on my experience on that setup amd my time driving on D.C./DMV roads...and you insult me.

                    Go buy a Honda.
                    You make it feel like a Honda forum.
                    ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34

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                    • TimeMachinE30
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 3749

                      #580
                      Originally posted by fporro
                      why not keep you JOM's adjusters/shocks and use correct eight and rate springs from from GC or H&R, so simple.
                      while you at it buy camber/caster plates so it all works the correct way.

                      triple rate bay.




                      Thank you. I will have to look into that more. Ordered HR sports and Koni Oranges.

                      Looks like part of the fix will be suspension. The other getting the apron of the driveway reworked.
                      ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34

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                      • mazzo
                        Wrencher
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 264

                        #581
                        I am running raceland for the price and look on my DD for about 2 years now, and I started looking into HPDE courses from BMWCCA. I wonder if the following setup is overkill ( I want to join HPDE but keep the car streetable):
                        1) Koni SA
                        2) H&R Race
                        3) Subframe with camber/toe kit

                        Thanks for your input/advise.

                        Matthew
                        Current:
                        '88 325ic Silver 5sp
                        '17 Subaru Outback 3.6R

                        Past:
                        '14 Rav4 EV (with tons of torque!)
                        '06 325i Black 5sp
                        '02 S4 Avant Black 6sp
                        '00 Boxster Silver 5sp
                        '98 New Bettle Yellow 5sp

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                        • phenryiv1
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3246

                          #582
                          Originally posted by mazzo
                          I am running raceland for the price and look on my DD for about 2 years now, and I started looking into HPDE courses from BMWCCA. I wonder if the following setup is overkill ( I want to join HPDE but keep the car streetable):
                          1) Koni SA
                          2) H&R Race
                          3) Subframe with camber/toe kit

                          Thanks for your input/advise.

                          Matthew
                          You might want to check the rules/regulations on HPDE events as they pertain to convertibles. Most sanctioning bodies require rollover protection for convertibles. Check that before future investments.
                          Patrick Henry

                          1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                          • achtunge30
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1029

                            #583
                            Originally posted by fporro
                            Why not keep you JOM's adjusters/shocks and use correct eight and rate springs from from GC or H&R, so simple
                            Find correct rate for 318 on spring master list http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40472 or close to it, buy them separately as not available as kit anymore.

                            while you at it buy camber/caster plates so it all works the correct way.

                            triple rate baby.




                            This is an interesting concept and one that I am interested in. I currently am on JOM coilovers, set pretty low, with no adjuster or rear spring pad and the ride is extremely harsh, always bottoming out. I am thinking about swapping to H&R sports and bilsteins with e90 drophats to get a softer ride with a conservative drop but this would be a cheap experiment.

                            Can you confirm if H&R sports will sit properly on the JOM front strut housings and adjusters? Obviously these are not matched for each other and my gut feeling is the shocks are the real reason why I am currently crashing over every crack in the road.
                            - Frank
                            '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
                            http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
                            Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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                            • phenryiv1
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3246

                              #584
                              Originally posted by achtunge30
                              Can you confirm if H&R sports will sit properly on the JOM front strut housings and adjusters?
                              That will not work. Coilover springs are a different diameter than "traditional" springs.
                              Patrick Henry

                              1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                              • phenryiv1
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3246

                                #585
                                Another tire & wheel size for those doing research. 15x8 ET20 Rota Grid Concave Full Royal Silver with 205/55/15 Kumho Ecsta 4xII tires on H&R Sport (convertible) springs, 15mm drop hats, Bilstein Sport struts/shocks.

                                Outside, before settling:







                                And after:













                                This is the 4th different wheel/tire combo on the same setup so if you scroll back you get a sense for how tire size and wheel specs impacts the overall appearance.
                                Patrick Henry

                                1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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