DIY - E36 window switch retrofit

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  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #301
    Can I come and steal the body controller and switches?

    I won't be able to pay for them, but will help you do something?

    Luke

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    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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    • franco90
      No R3VLimiter
      • Nov 2006
      • 3185

      #302
      Luke do you own your own bussiness

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      • Erick
        Official R3V Drifter
        • Oct 2003
        • 11169

        #303
        Anyone ran into the color pattern I have? I'm kinda lost at this point and my harness is all cut up :p
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        Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
        ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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        • StereoInstaller1
          GAS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22679

          #304
          Originally posted by franco90
          Luke do you own your own bussiness
          Well, kind of. I closed my shop last november, now I am just freelancing until the wife and I get settled.

          Closing SOON!
          "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

          Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

          Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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          • flyboyx
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2008
            • 8371

            #305
            Originally posted by BDSax
            i went through the shit load of e36 switch i have gotten and figured out what did what.

            E30 Switch:

            Window Up 1 - Black or (Black/Grey)
            Positive (+) 3 - Green/Grey
            Negitive (-) 4 - Brown
            Negitive (-) 5 - Brown
            7 - Black Yellow (i had this, it did nothing)
            Window Down 8 - Purple

            The e30 switch is very confusing...... there are tabs that come from the up and down leads and its always touching, im guessing it has more resistence the more it is pushed down.
            I tried to go from Power (Green/Grey) to the down lead (Purple) and it blew the curcuit. so im guessing it controlls the amount of voltage? thats what im confused about.
            n


            There are 3 different White Basee switches that i had, please check your colors. the Numbers on the switches still all lined up.

            E36 White Base #1:

            Negitive (-) 1 - Brown
            Window Down 3 - Black/Yellow
            Window Up 4 - Blue/Green
            Positive (+) 5 - Red/Brown


            E36 White Base #2:

            Negitive (-) 1 - Brown
            Window Down 3 - Purple/Grey
            Window Up 4 - Black/Grey
            Positive (+) 5 - Red/Brown


            E36 White Base #3:

            Negitive (-) 1 - Brown
            Window Down 3 - Black
            Window Up 4 - Green
            Positive (+) 5 - Red

            here is a little update on this upgrade. i started working on this swap today a found out a few things. i have the white base switches from a 4 door. i had the three wiring harnesses listed above on my plugs plus a fourth type.

            e36 white base #4

            ground(-)1 - brown
            window down 3 - violet
            window up 4 - black
            positive(+) - red/brown

            also for the e30, i have a 91 vert. as stated above, the e30 window switch has 5 wires whereas the white base e36 switches have 4 wires.

            here is how to keep them straight:(at least in the case of my car)

            there are two browns that are ground and these can be connected together to terminal 1 ground (or negative as stated above)

            all of the e30 power window wires on my car are a variation of a solid color with a colored strip. this is to say that all 4 switches have a black wire and a violet wire for the up/down function. however, 3 of the 4 have a colored stripe. the blacks are up and the violets are down.

            all four e30 switches have a green/gray wire for positive power in. these need to be soldered to the e36 brown/reds

            since my car has the power cutout button, i swapped in this switch from the 4 door e36. the e30 switch has 2 wires. both a variation of green with a stripe. the e36 cutout switch has 3 wires. two greens with stripe and one brown/red. to make this switch work, you need to connect one of the e30 greens to one of the e36 greens and the other e30 green to the brown/red on the e36 switch. the second green wire on the e36 switch will be left unused.
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            • bimmer_E30
              R3V Elite
              • Dec 2007
              • 5001

              #306
              can you upload the pics again, Josh?
              Originally posted by e30e
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              • BraveUlysses
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jun 2007
                • 3781

                #307
                Originally posted by bimmer_E30
                can you upload the pics again, Josh?
                Seconding this, but maybe use something less shitty than photobucket, like imageshack.us instead?

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                • Aptyp
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 6584

                  #308


                  moved photobucket folder...

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                  • Wh33lhop
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11705

                    #309
                    So, I hooked up a small white base (1-touch down) window switch. It illuminated, but no matter which way I hooked up the signal wires would not do crap to the window. It seems these were meant to use relays or something as the gauge of the signal wire is a lot smaller than the E30 ones.
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                    • kronus
                      R3V OG
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 13000

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                      So, I hooked up a small white base (1-touch down) window switch. It illuminated, but no matter which way I hooked up the signal wires would not do crap to the window. It seems these were meant to use relays or something as the gauge of the signal wire is a lot smaller than the E30 ones.
                      They go to the window controller module, which has internal drivers for the motors that the switches control. You won't get anywhere using just the late-style switches.
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                      • BraveUlysses
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 3781

                        #311
                        Anyone have a wiring guide for hooking up the e36 window lock switch to replace the stock one?

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                        • Wh33lhop
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11705

                          #312
                          Originally posted by kronus
                          They go to the window controller module, which has internal drivers for the motors that the switches control. You won't get anywhere using just the late-style switches.
                          Yeah, so basically extensive modification if I want to give it a shot. Then again, I wouldn't mind 1-touch windows... is it just a single module for all of the windows or do they each get an individual module?
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                          • Wh33lhop
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11705

                            #313
                            Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                            Anyone have a wiring guide for hooking up the e36 window lock switch to replace the stock one?
                            Uh... seriously? Both lock switches have two wires, unless you've got a crazy E36 switch that I'm not aware of, it doesn't matter which way you orient them.
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                            • BraveUlysses
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 3781

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                              Uh... seriously? Both lock switches have two wires, unless you've got a crazy E36 switch that I'm not aware of, it doesn't matter which way you orient them.
                              The E36 switch I got has 3 wires :???:

                              I guess i could just try experimenting.

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                              • 2002maniac
                                R3V Elite
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 4260

                                #315
                                Has anyone integrated the e36 one touch module? I'll have to pull out my e36 manual and look at how crazy the schematics are.

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