Upgrading to Parallel Flow Condenser

[nrubenstein]

He's not even in 10 degrees hotter than you,yall both are in the 80's blowing 40F from vent. Stock condenser in 92-100 degrees will only get you 55-70F from vent.

Wrong. The weather showed 93 degrees when those pics were taken. I think it's quite reasonable to say that it was 3-4 degrees warmer on either the highway or on an asphalt driveway.

[immajackuup]

Aw yeah

Just to let you know,you have to cut part of this piece to get mounting brackets align.

[redsubdivisions]

I like the writeup but agree that A/C is for pussies.

lol I agreed with that when I had my S13 240: I was single, broke most of the time, and I would roll around with the windows down.

Now that I have a kid on the way and I have a decent income, I think it was in my best interest to do so. But once it starts cooling down here, the windows will go down and my sunroof will go back more often.

[redsubdivisions]

I fooled around with this on a customers car for a week or so. The Pf condenser fit like shit with out a good bit of modification. The brackets to the fan have to be redone also. Not to mention custom ac lines. After wasted money I found out that there are a couple different condensers that came one e30's There are thin thick and double row tube fin condensers. I found a double tube fin that was in the yard behind where I work. Used it and worked great. Now i did find some parallel flow condensers (aftermarket) that some of our venders offered that were direct fit. Also I charged to the whole amount. The r12 amount minus 10%. i believe it was something like 1.86 pounds. That was the end of my investigation. If I were to do it again id check and see what some of the 93 verts had. I'm thinking 92 was the cut off date for r12, their condensers maybe more efficient. But using the duel row tube fin my high side pressure never got that high, and this was when the mid west had the 100k heat wave.


EDIT: I may have used the the generic fit PF one that was posted in a couple of forums.... It didnt have any brackets on it..

Had to have been a generic one. I did barely any modification to get this to fit. I think the most I had to do was my fan mounting grommets and that was basically it and I wouldn't even call that modifying. No custom lines either.

1992 was the year they started enforcing R-134 in cars and phasing out R-12, so 1993 had to have been different lines. My 1992 E34 wagon has R-134 service ports on it. I don't know if it was retrofitted or not (there was a BMW TSB about converting them over), but that fucker blows real cold.

[durtyE30]

I like the writeup but agree that A/C is for pussies.

[LJ851]

whats the point of the recirc button?

To recirc...ulate the air in the car instead of cooling new outside air.

[bmwstephen]

whats the point of the recirc button?

[moatilliatta]

I fooled around with this on a customers car for a week or so. The Pf condenser fit like shit with out a good bit of modification. The brackets to the fan have to be redone also. Not to mention custom ac lines. After wasted money I found out that there are a couple different condensers that came one e30's There are thin thick and double row tube fin condensers. I found a double tube fin that was in the yard behind where I work. Used it and worked great. Now i did find some parallel flow condensers (aftermarket) that some of our venders offered that were direct fit. Also I charged to the whole amount. The r12 amount minus 10%. i believe it was something like 1.86 pounds. That was the end of my investigation. If I were to do it again id check and see what some of the 93 verts had. I'm thinking 92 was the cut off date for r12, their condensers maybe more efficient. But using the duel row tube fin my high side pressure never got that high, and this was when the mid west had the 100k heat wave.


EDIT: I may have used the the generic fit PF one that was posted in a couple of forums.... It didnt have any brackets on it..

[HI-BOOST]

My gauge panels would go great with a chilling A/C unit. I am sure they make your car even more enjoyable. Cold A/C + a Gauge Panel = WIN!

http://hi-boost.com

;)

[glucklich21]

Aw yeah

[LJ851]

I'm not here to turn this into a pissing contest, but what difference does it make that 1 PERSON has the same results with a stock condenser? Like I've said before, there have been success stories on this subject and I went ahead and did it. Fuck, how many times do I have to explain that?

All of this is relative, hence my request for documented before and after tests.

All of our cars a/c systems have aged differently and perform differently. The only concern here in this thread is does the installation of a parallel flow condenser by itself lower the vent temps. period.

[redsubdivisions]

I'm not here to turn this into a pissing contest, but what difference does it make that 1 PERSON has the same results with a stock condenser? Like I've said before, there have been success stories on this subject and I went ahead and did it. Fuck, how many times do I have to explain that?

[immajackuup]

Right. That's why I'm blowing 2 degrees colder than he is in weather 10 degrees hotter. He didn't say what his fan speed was, either.

He's not even in 10 degrees hotter than you,yall both are in the 80's blowing 40F from vent. Stock condenser in 92-100 degrees will only get you 55-70F from vent.

[immajackuup]

This is the internet. Everyone has to say you're wrong and then show you how. :)


The PF condenser for my E30 will be in tomorrow. I'll be making a write up for replacing everything in the E30 AC system in the coming week.

sweet!!!!

[glucklich21]

This was from my own personal experience. I wrote this up to help others out and I've already heard some success from this.

As far as your pictures...cool, keep your stock condenser. More money and time in your pocket. I just found a big improvement from my old one, that's all. Everyone's system is different.

This is the internet. Everyone has to say you're wrong and then show you how. :)


The PF condenser for my E30 will be in tomorrow. I'll be making a write up for replacing everything in the E30 AC system in the coming week.