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    Easy Alternator Voltage Regulator Brush Replacement

    Is your alternator "on its way out" or already dead? If so it is highly possible that the alternator itself is fine and the problem lies in the voltage regulator. This is a guide to replacing the two graphite brushes that are on the voltage regulator of your Bosch alternator. I have never dealt with an e30 with the Valeo alternator, so I can't provide any guidance with that. I do know that the Valeo unit does not have a voltage regulator that external and easily removable like on the Bosch units.


    A quick lesson: The voltage regulator supplies current to the rotor winding in the alternator through the graphite brushes and slip rings. It uses the field current as supply. The regulator also has a control voltage input from the battery. If battery voltage drops, the regulator increases the field current supplied to the rotor. The strength of the magnetic field then increases and as a result, alternator output voltage increases. And if a voltage increase at the battery is sensed, the regulator will retard the field current that it passes to the rotor. If your brushes are worn past their functional point, the rotor will be spinning around in there without a magnetic field to induce current in the stator.

    I have had an alternator fail on me before more than once, and usually a failing alternator will exhibit some tell-tale signs like a noticeably sluggish starter, strange behaving electronics, etc. In an e30, you will also be warned by the battery light on the instrument cluster. This most recent time, I did not experience any of the normal issues that I associate with a bad alternator. I got in my car to go home from work, it started up normally and then a few of the dash lights were lit, but dimly as seen here:





    They were definitely not illuminated fully. There were no other symptoms for about 20 minutes and then my deck started turning on and off rapidly. I knew that there was an electrical issue, and I was convinced that is was a charging system issue. When I got home I put my multimeter on the battery while idling and I could see that the alternator was outputting about 11.0V. So I pulled the alternator, and then the voltage regulator. I then saw what I though was my issue. The brushes were about 5mm and 3mm respectively. The Bentley manual says that the brushes are 12mm new and should be replaced at 5mm. So I set out to get some new brushes.

    I should note right now that rather than replacing the brushes, you might just rather replace the entire voltage regulator. I was quoted $90 for a remanufactured alternator, $104 for a new voltage regulator and $3.49 for two new brushes at O’Reilly Auto Parts. I do not like buying my parts there, but I needed to get this fixed immediately, so I went for the brushes. I have since learned that you can get a new voltage regulator for around $25-$30 if you buy it online.


    Anyways, on to the fun part. Once you have the voltage regulator removed, you need to remove the solder from the two areas where the brushes are attached. You don’t need to spend too much time with the solder sucker, you just need to clear it out of the way so you can open up the crimped part that holds the brush in. You can see here I have one of the brushes removed. When you have the solder cleared, carefully pinch open the crimp. The brush with then come out along with the spring behind it.





    Do the same for the other brush. Be sure to be careful when opening the crimp, or you will just pinch it more closed as I did on the second one. I ended up having to get a small drill (I think I used a 1/32” bit) to open it up.



    You can then install the new brushes. They come with an inch or two of wire lead. With the spring in, run the wire through the hole, and compress the spring with the brush so that 12mm is exposed. Hold it in place there and crimp the hole closed to secure the brush there.






    Do this for both brushes, and then solder the crimped area to ensure that there is good conduction going on there. Go ahead and trim the excess lead off too. Here is one of the brushes done:






    And both:





    Now you’re good to go. Install the voltage regulator back in the alternator and put the alternator back in the car. Make sure you charge the battery in the car while you are doing all of this. Start the car up and put your multimeter across the battery terminals to test the alternator output.

    Easy enough, right?


    #2
    Good to know! Quality post - Thanks.

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      #3
      Nice!

      Do you have the O'Reilly's part number? Where they listed as brushes to fit an E30 or just generic brushes??

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        #4
        Just go to their website, enter your vehicle and then browse the parts to find them... it's pretty easy to find. They're with the rest of the charging system parts. And I'm almost positive that these are a fairly widely used brush. I mean, it's for a regulator from a Bosch alternator and many different cars use them.

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          #5
          Originally posted by TwoJ's View Post
          Just go to their website, enter your vehicle and then browse the parts to find them... it's pretty easy to find. They're with the rest of the charging system parts. And I'm almost positive that these are a fairly widely used brush. I mean, it's for a regulator from a Bosch alternator and many different cars use them.
          cool, thanks.

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            #6
            I've spent most of my day off trying to remove the solder and open up the crimp. Soldering iron, butane torch, pliers...Not gonna happen on this one apparently. I'll buy online and wait several days.

            UPDATE EDIT: Took some time to relax, went at it again with a tiny drill bit and got them installed. The crimp enclosures got abused a bit but should hold up with the solder added. Thanks for taking the time to post this as it helped me but it's probably not worth the trouble to do this if you can wait for the new regulator for $22 online, IMHO.
            Last edited by Danax87325; 05-18-2012, 03:19 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Danax87325 View Post
              I've spent most of my day off trying to remove the solder and open up the crimp. Soldering iron, butane torch, pliers...Not gonna happen on this one apparently. I'll buy online and wait several days.

              UPDATE EDIT: Took some time to relax, went at it again with a tiny drill bit and got them installed. The crimp enclosures got abused a bit but should hold up with the solder added. Thanks for taking the time to post this as it helped me but it's probably not worth the trouble to do this if you can wait for the new regulator for $22 online, IMHO.

              You're welcome. And I completely agree... it took my only about 20-25 minutes to do this and I still think if I were to do it again, I'd just buy a new regulator online if I was able to wait for it. When I did this, I was under the impression that a new regulator was almost $100, so I thought it was a no-brainer. Plus, at the time I only had the e30 to drive, so I didn't have time to order something online and wait for shipping.

              But, when I haven't done something before, I get the curiosity bug. I like to understand how things work. So with something like this, I take it as a good opportunity to research how a voltage regulator works, and then get my hands dirty and take it apart. When it is something new and pretty easy like this, I actually enjoy it.

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                #8
                where did you find a cheap regulator?

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                  #9
                  i found one from BMAparts for like 12 bucks
                  1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
                  1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

                  Originally posted by RickSloan
                  so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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                    #10
                    awesome thanks! i was dumbfounded to see them at the chain stores for like $80+

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                      #11
                      Check this out.




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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Danax87325 View Post
                        I've spent most of my day off trying to remove the solder and open up the crimp. Soldering iron, butane torch, pliers...Not gonna happen on this one apparently. I'll buy online and wait several days.

                        UPDATE EDIT: Took some time to relax, went at it again with a tiny drill bit and got them installed. The crimp enclosures got abused a bit but should hold up with the solder added. Thanks for taking the time to post this as it helped me but it's probably not worth the trouble to do this if you can wait for the new regulator for $22 online, IMHO.
                        Wasn't adventurous enough to undertake this ordeal so i popped out the VR and took it to the neighbourhood automotive electrical shop. Guy looked at it for 10 seconds, grinded the crimps off and resoldered the brushes in 3 minutes tops. Kinda shoddy if you asked me. But for RM20($6.50), i really can't complain.

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