How to replicate HELLA's smoked ellipsoid technique:

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  • BBY1104

    #106
    Darin maybe its cause you have a convection oven?

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    • evil_twin
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      • Nov 2007
      • 2965

      #107
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
      OK so i just attempted this too. Baked all lenses as per Jordans instructions at 350F. The plastic adjusters melted, and fell on to the oven element making a terrible smell. I lost about half of them. Then I tried to pry off the lenses, and one shattered in to pieces. THe others will not come off, they are on there fucking tight as nails. I just don't get it, WTF am I doing wrong? I'm ready to just buy them pre-smoked.


      You have to be patient when you do it. And be very careful. How long did you have it in the oven for? I put my lights in there at 250º for about 5-10minutes at tops. I used a small screwdriver to get in between the lens and the housing. It took me a while to get it off. The sealer they used is VERY strong and will not pull apart easily.
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      • CorvallisBMW
        Long Schlong Longhammer
        • Feb 2005
        • 13039

        #108
        Originally posted by evil_twin
        You have to be patient when you do it. And be very careful. How long did you have it in the oven for? I put my lights in there at 250º for about 5-10minutes at tops. I used a small screwdriver to get in between the lens and the housing. It took me a while to get it off. The sealer they used is VERY strong and will not pull apart easily.
        Well, I had them in there for about 10 min at 350. I used several different sizes of flat blade screwdrivers to try and pry the lenses apart, but no go. The only way I could get the lens to seperate was to use a LOT of force, and that shattered the lens.

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        • DLag
          Advanced Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 107

          #109
          hey guys, where did you get your SEM trim black #39143 paint? my Lowe's and kragen didn't have it..

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          • JasonC
            Site Manager
            • Aug 2006
            • 14451

            #110
            Originally posted by DLag
            hey guys, where did you get your SEM trim black #39143 paint? my Lowe's and kragen didn't have it..
            Local automotive paint shop.

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            • BigSam
              Advanced Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 168

              #111
              I honestly found it easier to boil the lens assembly. I put it in the water, and turned the heat on. I let them sit until they boiled, then for about 5 more minutes. Try prying up a little bit, then put them back in the water for like 5-10 more minutes. Very time consuming, but I didn't break a single lense. I also used the 'X' patern, I found it easy to line up to make the slots in the plastic backing. Uou can also use a razor knife to cut the adhesive, that works in tight spots.

              PS, try using differnt color adhesives, I used red and it came out looking like my car was stoned, but awesome at the same time.

              Sam

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              • aSpecD_
                E30 Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 495

                #112
                okay. so i have US ellipsoids on mine. my driver side low beam lens were cracked in half, but it was still held by its original glue. so i was on the market for some lenses but because i now have HIDs, i wanted to use HELLA Glass lenses and not plastic. i thought, hmm 73 bucks for a brand new OEM glass lens..?? too much for my blood, and plus it wouldn't match the pitted lens on the other side. haha!

                so with this DIY in mind, i drove to the junkyard. =)
                i massacred three e34's to find the best ellipsoid lenses.
                [all the e30's in there had sealed beams.. FTL]
                i was told that the whole headlight assembly [one bucket/lens/projector] was kinda pricey so i had to somehow just get the lenses. with a few try's some came loose easily being under the sun for so long.. and some i had to gently pry out. but i successfully got a pair of low beam lenses, a pair of High beam lenses.. and for my just-in-case set, a pair of the chrome plated rings [the part around the projector that is to be painted black.] they're a little pitted but decent condition. $20 bucks for the six items! whoo hoo!

                now that i have all lenses.. i didn't have to be so careful about breaking the ones i have! so i started with the low beams, held the whole assembly with the lenses facing down [so the glass pieces fall downwards and not into the projector] and with little pressure, hit them with a hammer! [make sure it's offset from the center to avoid scratching the projector.] now with only little glued pieces left, i used my heat gun. softened the glue and pried out all the remaining. i then cleaned it up for the new silicone, placed the painted rings and finally the lens! did both low beams pretty quick actually.. then i noticed i had the breather tube on my high beams!? good thing i held back before breaking their lenses. so i stopped there.

                i'm worried about the crosshairs not aligning straight with the tube there sticking out. should i just try to find some used euro high beams and sit them in my US assembly? do they differ?

                ps. whoever has some crosshairs they want to sell to me, just PM =)

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                • Rogan
                  Wrencher
                  • May 2008
                  • 224

                  #113
                  not having done the glass-lense lights, I've done many plastic lense/plastic housing lights (Like Subaru WRX)..
                  I heat those up at 250*F. I preheat the oven, then put the HL assy. in on a cookie sheet, for 15-18mins. I take them out, put it on the bench, and with a couple of flat-tip screwdrivers, I slowly work the lenses off.. That seems to work well for those types of housings, anyway. I'll try my E30 ones, soon.
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                  • RobertB
                    Wrencher
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 244

                    #114
                    Here's my DIY smoked smileys. ;)




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                    • Kingb
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 928

                      #115
                      Anybody have or can get some more made?? I know that there are more people interested to do another group buy on these.

                      Also for all of you that have broken yours and need another set I have access to plenty of Euro smileys. Just hit me up.
                      Originally posted by Nicademus
                      My car beats off to that car. :bow:

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                      • jrobie79
                        R3VLimited
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2521

                        #116
                        Originally posted by kingb
                        anybody have or can get some more made?? I know that there are more people interested to do another group buy on these.
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                        so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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                        • ///M42 sport
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3952

                          #117
                          Originally posted by BigSam
                          I honestly found it easier to boil the lens assembly. I put it in the water, and turned the heat on. I let them sit until they boiled, then for about 5 more minutes. Try prying up a little bit, then put them back in the water for like 5-10 more minutes. Very time consuming, but I didn't break a single lense. I also used the 'X' patern, I found it easy to line up to make the slots in the plastic backing. Uou can also use a razor knife to cut the adhesive, that works in tight spots.

                          PS, try using differnt color adhesives, I used red and it came out looking like my car was stoned, but awesome at the same time.

                          Sam
                          Same here, boiled water was the safest route for me. I tried the oven method also, but only b/c my highbeams were all metal.
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                          • attackeagle
                            Noobie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Kingb
                            Anybody have or can get some more made?? I know that there are more people interested to do another group buy on these.

                            Also for all of you that have broken yours and need another set I have access to plenty of Euro smileys. Just hit me up.
                            yes we are working on running a few sets off over on bf.c in the e34 forum.
                            right now we have about 20 members signed up for them.

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                            • EBPludeSH
                              Noobie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 8

                              #119
                              Originally posted by attackeagle
                              yes we are working on running a few sets off over on bf.c in the e34 forum.
                              right now we have about 20 members signed up for them.
                              Thanks for the heads up, I put my name on the list as well.

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                              • fleece johnson
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 121

                                #120
                                So, I baked my low beams and got the lenses of but this plastic piece melted to shit on one of them. Any idea what it's for and if I need to replace it?



                                Thanks.

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