DIY: Euro Bumper Install - Early Models

[kronus]

OK, I figured out a way. What we're trying to do boils down to (blink)XOR(parking). That's doable with a relay if we do it smartly.

Check out this link, first (it's a java applet thing, you have to wait a bit for it to load)

I'll be reading up on relays in a bit, but the ones used there look fairly standard. They need a solid source of +, though. You can either run a separate constant + wire or do the thing I did with the diodes to get power when you need it. Diagram:



I think this will work.

[kronus]

relays!

Now that I think about it, my way would inhibit blinking when the parking light is on. I think I had that realization earlier, and was assembling something involving transistors in my head until I got distracted.

With your method, however, it will not blink at all unless the parking light is on - if the parking wire is grounded and the turn wire starts going and flipping around the relay, nothing will happen, since the bulb's + will see (ground) (disconnected) (ground) (disconnected), the way I'm reading it at least.

I've got a pencil out right now and am trying to figure this out.

[MoparJ]

Thanks for the pics; I'm subscribing to this one....

I have some beat-up euros sitting in my back yard, and I've been needing some encouragement to fix and install them anyway. ;)

[Jean]

On my '87, the US connectors were three flat pins in a row, all parallel. The euro pigtails I got were 2 pins in a row. Cutting off the parking light pin/housing on the American harness may work, but the rubber boot that seals the connector won't fit anymore.

Hmm, I just got an idea of how to make parking light AND turn signal work with the euro housing. Unfortunately, I'm away from my car and can't test it.

If both the white and blue wires are hot (+) and brown is the common ground, you could tie white and blue into the same pin on the bulb. To prevent funky things from damaging circuitry further back in the harness, both have to be put through diodes. Diagram:


I can't test this at the moment (need to know current through those signal wires to know what size diode I would need) but if someone has the tools and skills, go for it.

A problem I can see right away is what happens if both the parking light and signal want to turn on - voltage will double and may blow the bulb. Any advice?

I was going to run the bulb through a normally closed relay, and the relay would be opening and closing via the indicator wire when you turn them on.

Excuse the ms.paint drawing..

[kronus]

On my '87, the US connectors were three flat pins in a row, all parallel. The euro pigtails I got were 2 pins in a row. Cutting off the parking light pin/housing on the American harness may work, but the rubber boot that seals the connector won't fit anymore.

Hmm, I just got an idea of how to make parking light AND turn signal work with the euro housing. Unfortunately, I'm away from my car and can't test it.

If both the white and blue wires are hot (+) and brown is the common ground, you could tie white and blue into the same pin on the bulb. To prevent funky things from damaging circuitry further back in the harness, both have to be put through diodes. Diagram:


I can't test this at the moment (need to know current through those signal wires to know what size diode I would need) but if someone has the tools and skills, go for it.

A problem I can see right away is what happens if both the parking light and signal want to turn on - voltage will double and may blow the bulb. Any advice?

[scabzzzz]

I think through the years its different actually.

But after closer inspection, you're right Jason. My US plug has the same prongs and its ready to fit, just the plug shape is every so slightly different. If I trimmed it, it would work.

Ill take pictures of it when I feel like having front turn signals. ;)
Or I get pulled over, either one.

[JasonC]

No picture. And i'd have to take the bumper off to get one.

I thought the US connector was just a flat male plug with the 3 wires in a row? Atleast that's how it was on my 85. Cause on my 87 i got now had the plastic bumper swap, so i just used the ones from my 85 on it. Maybe they changed them in the later years on the diving board bumpers?

[ZM Blue Devil]

I found on the turn signals in the front bumper. You can trim the connector on the US wiring harness (male end) to fit into the one in the bumper (female). You'll have to cut the side of the male connector that has the parking light wire.

Jason, any chance you can clip a quick pic? Also I will double check tomorrow during the day but isn't the us male plug have one of the wire ends perpendicular and the euros are both horizontal?

[Coco Savage]

So much homo goin around

:nice:

[scabzzzz]

So much homo goin around

[Coco Savage]

Throw some love my way... It was me who took the pictures for people like me who dont want to read directions.

lol...but you havnt rejected me yet.


but love is there for the pics..thanks!

[ZM Blue Devil]

are you rejecting my love? :(

Throw some love my way... It was me who took the pictures for people like me who dont want to read directions.

[scabzzzz]

are you rejecting my love? :(

No baby, I embrace that shit.

[Coco Savage]

Bet you do, seen you post in every euro bumper related thread.

are you rejecting my love? :(

[scabzzzz]

OMG i wub u

Bet you do, seen you post in every euro bumper related thread.