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  • TUD
    Wrencher
    • Mar 2004
    • 222

    #1

    Cat or not?

    Euro 'i' car. I was told that the car did not have a cat, but it certainly appears that it does. Opinions?
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    Last edited by TUD; 10-17-2006, 09:59 AM.
  • Sean
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2003
    • 5793

    #2
    You know, it looks like a cat, but I guess the best way to tell is to smell your exhaust. If it's not running a cat, it will probably have a nice odor to it. if not, it shouldn't be as bad. That could be a resonator of some sort, but I really don't know. :-\
    - Sean Hayes

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    • tonytony
      Knee deep in poopie
      • Jan 2004
      • 3498

      #3
      looks like a cat to me, take it apart and roll a marble into it:)

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      • SchnellerVert
        No R3VLimiter
        • Sep 2005
        • 3948

        #4
        That's a cat. Late model car? Early EU cars it was optional, late model mandatory.

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        • TUD
          Wrencher
          • Mar 2004
          • 222

          #5
          Originally posted by SchnellerVert
          That's a cat. Late model car? Early EU cars it was optional, late model mandatory.

          '86 Euro M20, gray market.


          The exhaust is fairly strong, but not as bad as an S14 with no cats.


          Edit: There is not an O2 Sensor on this car.

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          • SchnellerVert
            No R3VLimiter
            • Sep 2005
            • 3948

            #6
            Early cars did not have an O2 sensor due to no cats. This was common.

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            • TUD
              Wrencher
              • Mar 2004
              • 222

              #7
              Originally posted by SchnellerVert
              Early cars did not have an O2 sensor due to no cats. This was common.
              So, then that is not a cat?


              Edit: I sent Patrick at BMA the same pic this monring and they are having difficulty coming up with an answer.

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              • SchnellerVert
                No R3VLimiter
                • Sep 2005
                • 3948

                #8
                It was probably a cat added to appease the inspectors when the car was brought into the US. Does it have Federalization papers? IT should.

                EPA/US Customs.

                It probably has down pipe back of a US system minus the proper pipe for an O2 bung.

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                • TUD
                  Wrencher
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 222

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SchnellerVert
                  It was probably a cat added to appease the inspectors when the car was brought into the US. Does it have Federalization papers? IT should.

                  EPA/US Customs.

                  It probably has down pipe back of a US system minus the proper pipe for an O2 bung.

                  From my understanding the importer/first owner later removed all the items that had to be added.

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                  • TUD
                    Wrencher
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 222

                    #10
                    Snapped a few more pics
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                    • SchnellerVert
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 3948

                      #11
                      The only issue is now finding a proper fit exhaust due to cat backs will be to short.

                      SuperSprint sells an EU set for the 323i e30's that fit as well as BAV sells this exact system.

                      Or order from Mike.

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                      • TUD
                        Wrencher
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 222

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SchnellerVert
                        The only issue is now finding a proper fit exhaust due to cat backs will be to short.

                        SuperSprint sells an EU set for the 323i e30's that fit as well as BAV sells this exact system.

                        Or order from Mike.

                        I was considering using the Eberspacher - BMW p/n 18101705783. According to ETK this is the part # for this specific car.

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #13
                          that's definitely a cat.
                          Build thread

                          Bimmerlabs

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                          • volgapower
                            Advanced Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 161

                            #14
                            take it away and weld in exhaust diameter sized pipe instead u will get 1-2HPs ;)

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                            • Morrison
                              E30 Addict
                              • May 2006
                              • 430

                              #15
                              Did you ever find out if it was actually a cat or just a resonator? I was looking at this on realoem after searching for an " '85 Euro 325i" and found this:

                              http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...07&hg=18&fg=05

                              It says it is for a catless system, but looks similar to a cat. Also notice the cost; much less than an actual "cat" system. Is it fair to say that there is just a standard resonator inside there?
                              "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm."
                              -Franklin D. Roosevelt

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