Car falls flat on its face at ~5000 rpms in boost?

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  • Danny
    Moderator
    • Feb 2008
    • 14216

    #1

    Car falls flat on its face at ~5000 rpms in boost?

    Fuel pump dieing?

  • Pinepig
    E30 Mastermind
    • Sep 2007
    • 1811

    #2
    How much PSI, could be blowing the spark out, what kind of ignition system are you running.

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    • Danny
      Moderator
      • Feb 2008
      • 14216

      #3
      8 psi.

      Stock ignition.

      I had to running fine this morning, then this afternoon it started doing this. I think the fuel pump finally gave up the ghost.

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      • Holland
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2008
        • 7176

        #4
        Reliability, FTW. Lol sorry, I had to say that. but still that sucks.
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        You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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        • Danny
          Moderator
          • Feb 2008
          • 14216

          #5
          Alebit the ignition is controlled by MS, but its the stock coilpacks.

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          • Erick
            Official R3V Drifter
            • Oct 2003
            • 11169

            #6
            No whine from the pump? Check fuel pressure?
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            • Danny
              Moderator
              • Feb 2008
              • 14216

              #7
              LOTS of whine from the pump.

              When I rev it with MS connected the gauges on the laptop show the fuel pressure goes to negative.

              I'm pretty sure its the pump, just wanted to see if there were any other ideas.

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              • wolfgangstbd
                E30 Modder
                • Oct 2008
                • 960

                #8
                when my fuel pump died my car actually couldnt stay alive unless it was about 3000 rpm but it wouldnt even reach five.. oh i would have to say the biggest symptom i noticed is the rpm's would bounce around alot at idle by like 2-4 hundred rpms. and it got worse after being on brakes kinda hard

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                • dashboardmonkey
                  FUCK YOUR WAFFLES
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6158

                  #9
                  Whack the panel above the fuel pump a couple time with a rubber mallet when it starts falling on its face.
                  -Andy

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                  • Rolla1990
                    Advanced Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 199

                    #10
                    I had this problem when I first went MS, it turned out to be the overboost protection setting in the tune. I had it set too low so it would cut the spark out once the car reached full boost. Maybe your boost controller is letting your car overboost?


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                    • xwill112x
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4236

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Danny
                      LOTS of whine from the pump.
                      that should be a immediate indicator.
                      if i were you, i'd replace the fuel filter while i was replacing the fuel pump. ;)
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                      • Jbpka06
                        E30 Addict
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 551

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Danny
                        When I rev it with MS connected the gauges on the laptop show the fuel pressure goes to negative.
                        Doesnt there have to be something sending a fuel pressure signal to the MS for that reading to be accurate? I didn't think there was a fuel pressure signal unless you added an aftermarket gauge sender.

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                        • blueapplesoda
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1904

                          #13
                          Fuel filter? I used a walbro in my setup and they use these stupid little sump filters that get dirty and clogged really fast and caused my car to choke up and the afr's went lean around higher rpm/boost. Could be a problem.

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                          • blueapplesoda
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1904

                            #14
                            On second thought if u used an fpr (pre-ms) with the stock fuel pump then your pump probably failed.

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                            • Danny
                              Moderator
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 14216

                              #15
                              Originally posted by blueapplesoda
                              On second thought if u used an fpr (pre-ms) with the stock fuel pump then your pump probably failed.
                              Thats what M3Ryan said as well when I called him.

                              I already ordered the pump and I'll get the fuel filter as well.

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