possible to upgrade m20 TB with M30 TB

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  • p0cket penguins
    E30 Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 481

    #1

    possible to upgrade m20 TB with M30 TB

    Hey guys,

    Last night I saw two coolant lines running to my M20 throttle body (on the track only e30). I was thinking about looping it but I remembered that the m30 throttle body didnt have these lines. I was wondering if the m30 throttle body will bolt straight up to the m20?


    thanks
    Chris

  • Erick
    Official R3V Drifter
    • Oct 2003
    • 11169

    #2
    Originally posted by p0cket penguins
    Hey guys,

    Last night I saw two coolant lines running to my M20 throttle body (on the track only e30). I was thinking about looping it but I remembered that the m30 throttle body didnt have these lines. I was wondering if the m30 throttle body will bolt straight up to the m20?


    thanks
    Chris
    That's a negative sir.
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    Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
    ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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    • p0cket penguins
      E30 Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 481

      #3
      whoooomp whomppppppp.... ok well ill just connect the coolant lines together with a brass fitting and take off that plate.... also has anyone relocated there coolant tank... Mine is on the driver side and i want to make a super sweet air box... if i could move it to the passenger side that would be great

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        it would be easier probably to move the intake to the passenger side. that's my plan anyway.
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        • SpecM
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2005
          • 4531

          #5
          Originally posted by nando
          it would be easier probably to move the intake to the passenger side. that's my plan anyway.
          ooh more details on that?
          1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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          • Erick
            Official R3V Drifter
            • Oct 2003
            • 11169

            #6
            Originally posted by SpecM
            ooh more details on that?
            And a reason why you'd want to move the intake to the hotside please :p
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            Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
            ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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            • SpecM
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2005
              • 4531

              #7
              Originally posted by Erick
              And a reason why you'd want to move the intake to the hotside please :p
              probably get a more direct and straiter airflow

              and proper sheilding would be a must, yes
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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                Originally posted by Erick
                And a reason why you'd want to move the intake to the hotside please :p
                I mean the filter itself. there's a huge open area behind my passenger headlight, or the crowded area on the drivers side which is also occupied by the radiator outlet and resivior.
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                • p0cket penguins
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 481

                  #9
                  but cant you just get an early model coolant tank and put it where the early model ones are?youd have more space.

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                  • nando
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 34827

                    #10
                    I could but my ABS and cruise control would still be in the way, and I'm not removing those just for an intake. :p
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                    • RobE30
                      E30 Modder
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 959

                      #11
                      Originally posted by p0cket penguins
                      Hey guys,

                      Last night I saw two coolant lines running to my M20 throttle body (on the track only e30). I was thinking about looping it but I remembered that the m30 throttle body didnt have these lines. I was wondering if the m30 throttle body will bolt straight up to the m20?


                      thanks
                      Chris
                      I tried to make the m30 tb work.... didn't happen. If you swapped to an earlier radiator you could move the coolant tank to the pass side or maybe an m42 radiator?
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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34827

                        #12
                        btw, apparently the temperature that is most likely to form ice in your TB is about 70 degrees. I'm not sure cutting off the TB heater is going to make any difference in intake temps considering how small the surface area is, and your intake manifold likely gets way hotter anyway.
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                        • p0cket penguins
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 481

                          #13
                          so it wouldn't matter either way... cause your throttle body will be warmed up in a few minutes when your engine starts right?

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            sure, but the velocity of the air is what cools down the throttle area and causes ice to form, it doesn't matter so much what the intake manifold temp is. If you think about it the two should cancel each other out leaving the throttle body at a normal temp. So by keeping the TB heater you are avoiding the issue of ice formation without sacrificing anything else.
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                            • p0cket penguins
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 481

                              #15
                              why doesnt the m30 and m50 engines have them?

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