m20b25 with b27 head

[nando]

and the upgrades are not going to make the car run worst, WTF will you say that, it might no idle for shit but I really don't care about that, I just want it running good at high RPM because this mottor is going into another E30 race car and on mine I will probably put another m20b25 and keep it as a daily

defensive much? it was constructive criticism. did you think maybe tires would be a better investment than some engine mods then? RT-615 aren't exactly a great track tire by today's standards. You don't have to educate me about tires, either. I had a set of those like 5 years ago ;)

and yeah, it's going to run worse, because you don't have a clue how those parts are going to work together in your motor. why do you want bigger injectors? do you know how that's going to affect the air fuel ratio? what supporting mods are going to go with that cam? how aggressive should you going to go with the profile? are you going to do something about the valve springs or use old stock ones? what about rockers? etc. etc.

These are the questions you should be asking. instead you are asking if you can bolt on a head from the economy version of the M20 to make more power. It shows that you need to do a whole lot of learning before running your mouth about magic engine upgrades.

[e30m20beast]

You can't go any thinner on the head gasket than it is now. More power to ya though. Just bolt the head to the block without a gasket. You'll be fine.

The chip you are talking about is the Miller Performance W.A.R. Chip. It's $350 and I doubt you can get a better price than that.

A 255 fuel pump will do nothing for you with stock injectors.

I'm getting the idea you're just trying to get a rise out of the folks here by acting like an idiot.

For your info I just started here asking a question and people started writing BS like you.

I have better injectors, and the chip my friend can get it used for $150. and if you are here to write shit go ahead shoot your self and get ignored nasty

[JTapper]

^^Finest street racer in all of Miami!^^

[e30m20beast]

if your motor is new and doesn't need work, keep saving and do a turbo. or better, spend it on track days and learn how to drive better - my car isn't very fast but I can still hang with the big boys (at least the ones not driving quarter million dollar porsches).

In other words, the other drivers are faster than you because they are better drivers, not because your car is slow. Plus all of those mods you listed are more likely to make your engine run worse, not better, because you lack understanding of what's really going on.

I have been going to track for a long time now and like you say the porches or vets or any car of that nature pass me on the straights not on the corners And for your info I don't even use slicks, the tires I use are falken rt615 (high performance street tires), so don't talk shit of what you don't know. and the upgrades are not going to make the car run worst, WTF will you say that, it might no idle for shit but I really don't care about that, I just want it running good at high RPM because this mottor is going into another E30 race car and on mine I will probably put another m20b25 and keep it as a daily

[JTapper]

Can I ask you what motor you have and what do you have done to it?

88' M20B27 ETA block with M20 i head
Garrett T3/T4 turbo
MAF conversion
30# injectors
Walbro 255 pump
Miller Performance W.A.R. chip
3" Downpipe into 2.5", haven't decided on a muffler yet.

This is in an 87' 325i vert, Delphin Metallic, Beige interior. Rust free and all original.

[nando]

I rebuild my motor not long ago so I will not be needing maintenance for a long time.

I know people are going to say but why you didn't build it different like with more power?? "I got the whole rebuild kit for free!!!" and the only thing I paid for was the gasket set($140) and machine shop for inspection and cleaning($300)

if your motor is new and doesn't need work, keep saving and do a turbo. or better, spend it on track days and learn how to drive better - my car isn't very fast but I can still hang with the big boys (at least the ones not driving quarter million dollar porsches).

In other words, the other drivers are faster than you because they are better drivers, not because your car is slow. Plus all of those mods you listed are more likely to make your engine run worse, not better, because you lack understanding of what's really going on.

[e30m20beast]

Some people never cease to amaze.

Can I ask you what motor you have and what do you have done to it?

[JTapper]

I will buy cam and a lower head gasket (to lift the compression a lil). there is a chip that has a USB port that it allows some tunning with a laptop and my friend can get it for cheap. I am going to get better distributor , rotor and cables for $80(not bad). I forgot to mention that I have a set of better injectors that I need to install and a 255LPH fuel pump.
So I really think that this is going to give me enough power for now.;)

You can't go any thinner on the head gasket than it is now. More power to ya though. Just bolt the head to the block without a gasket. You'll be fine.

The chip you are talking about is the Miller Performance W.A.R. Chip. It's $350 and I doubt you can get a better price than that.

A 255 fuel pump will do nothing for you with stock injectors.









I'm getting the idea you're just trying to get a rise out of the folks here by acting like an idiot.

[e30m20beast]

$500 = maintenance

best thing you can do for a stock motor by far

I rebuild my motor not long ago so I will not be needing maintenance for a long time.

I know people are going to say but why you didn't build it different like with more power?? "I got the whole rebuild kit for free!!!" and the only thing I paid for was the gasket set($140) and machine shop for inspection and cleaning($300)

[nando]

$500 = maintenance

best thing you can do for a stock motor by far

[e30m20beast]

So what are you going to do? Cause with a $500 budget, That money will go quick!

I will buy cam and a lower head gasket (to lift the compression a lil). there is a chip that has a USB port that it allows some tunning with a laptop and my friend can get it for cheap. I am going to get better distributor , rotor and cables for $80(not bad). I forgot to mention that I have a set of better injectors that I need to install and a 255LPH fuel pump.
So I really think that this is going to give me enough power for now.;)

[JTapper]

no one has them but like I said my friend that works at the bmw dealer gave me some points to put additional grounding cables to help the discharge of electricity, if you know, the m20 has only 1 ground cable to the motor and that's basically it, the rest are all to the body of the car, to help it you can add one to the diff and one to the tranny and also there are some more points to where it can be added

Some people never cease to amaze.

[JasonC]

So what are you going to do? Cause with a $500 budget, That money will go quick!

[e30m20beast]

ok I know what I am going to do, thanks people for criticize and give me ideas, with $500 I will be able to get decent power and without going boost "or nos lol!!"

[JasonC]

It wasnt a joke...

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But don't act like this guy after you install it. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=150385