I am trying to decide which option is best.

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  • eta
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 63

    #1

    I am trying to decide which option is best.

    I am thinking about what to do next with my M20.
    My current engine has 172000 miles. Use no oil and is sound with no running issues whatso ever. It is a UK spec 525e bottom end, that is 81mm crank, 130 mm con rods and 10.2:1 CR eta pistons. A 885 cylinder head is fitted along with the matching inlet manifold. A big bore TB is alos fitted (it sounds a lot better) and an 082 AFM with motronic 1.3. The problem is troque above 5500 rpm drops of quite rapidly. I would like to improve the high rpm performance to justify the fitting of a 3.91 final drive to replace the 3.46:1 which is fitted at the moment and suit the current torque curve well. The compression ratio of the engine is calculated to be 9.35:1. The only thing is I do want to sacrife too much low torque but losing a little will not be too much of problem witht the shorter diff.

    The three options I am concidering, one of which will happen are;
    1) fit a longer duration cam such as a cat cams 285/285 profile with 11.55mm of lift, a 325i exhaust manifold and down pipes (to replace the 525e exhaust manifold and pipes) and a new exhaust to match the larger down pipes.

    2) As above but I would like to get the inlet manifold and inlet ports port matched as well. Also machine work to improve the air flow around the valves. I know the benefits of this are going to come at a price but I am also hoping it will allow me to get the best out the cam and exhaust.

    3) Raise the CR back to 10.2:1 by using a 731 head with above cam profile and 42mm/36mm valves inserted to replace the smaller ones in this cylinder head. The inlet ports will need to be matched to the 325i inlet manifold. Mate this to the 325i exhaust manifold and down pipes job hopeful done.

    Option three will be the most expensive, but will raising the CR give me any noticlable benefit over sticking with the 9.35:1 CR provided by the 885 head. It's not much of jump so this is why I am asking.
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    if you want to go with a bigger cam, you would want to bump up the CR as well. 9.35:1 isn't bad, but I wouldn't go super agressive with that. a 285 cam would probably go better with 10.2:1.

    the 731 head is probably the better option, but if you already have an 885 head on the motor I would build that and maybe with a less agressive cam to go with your CR. Probably a dual pattern?
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    • lennon
      E30 Fanatic
      • Jun 2008
      • 1416

      #3
      I don't know about the 10.2:1 pistons, but I was unable to use a 288 schrick in my motor with 11:1 eta pistons and the 731 head. The pistons would've needed valve reliefs cut into them because they have basically none. Just putting that out there as something to think about...

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        you will need to cut deeper valve pockets on basically any high lift, high duration cam used with stock pistons.
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        • lennon
          E30 Fanatic
          • Jun 2008
          • 1416

          #5
          yes. i was just mentioning it because he hadn't. those high-compression flat topped eta pistons will definitely need some work done to them. that's what made it not worth it for me.

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