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  • permit
    No R3VLimiter
    • Mar 2005
    • 3363

    #31
    Originally posted by 2002maniac
    Originally posted by Jordan
    Originally posted by glazierporvida
    its somewhere in the 250-260 range
    No, its not. Your "3.2" isn't a 3.2 either.

    Go somewhere else.
    Wow, somebody's jealous...

    what ever happened to your 2.8 "stroker" you fucked up?
    according to his sig, it seems to be doing just fine.

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    • Mtriple
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      • Dec 2003
      • 3139

      #32
      Originally posted by BimmerToad
      In my opinion, posts like these are much more interesting than threads about how much better a set of ebay'd Depos look on a 325. . . :roll:
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      • Jordan
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 12907

        #33
        Originally posted by 2002maniac
        Originally posted by Jordan
        Originally posted by glazierporvida
        its somewhere in the 250-260 range
        No, its not. Your "3.2" isn't a 3.2 either.

        Go somewhere else.
        Wow, somebody's jealous...

        what ever happened to your 2.8 "stroker" you fucked up?
        How come some tool always confuses me shunning a moron for me being jealous.

        My 2.8 is alive and well.
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        • 2002maniac
          R3V Elite
          • Feb 2005
          • 4260

          #34
          What did he do to become a moron? Maybe I missed it, but I think he deserves some respect for building a high comp 3.2 (I dont care if it is 3,162cc he can call it what he wants) If honda makes a motorcycle that is 376cc and they call it a 400 is that a lie? This is just the internet, I dont why some people take it so seriously. We are all E30 enthusiasts and shoould support each other. There is some good info here on this board but way too much shittalk. Im sure his 3.whatever has some major balls. Congrats for getting it running

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          • Jordan
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 12907

            #35
            badging is rounded up.

            3149cc = 3.1l
            3150cc = 3.2l

            his "3.2l" is barely a 3.1l
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            • BavarianBimmer
              E30 Modder
              • Oct 2003
              • 951

              #36
              Originally posted by Jordan

              his "3.2l" is barely a 3.1l

              an 3.2 sounds waaayy cooler :giggle:

              the ricer boys will think immediatly "something with ///M roots"

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              • AndrewBird
                The Mad Scientist
                • Oct 2003
                • 11892

                #37
                Originally posted by Jordan
                badging is rounded up.

                3149cc = 3.1l
                3150cc = 3.2l

                his "3.2l" is barely a 3.1l
                Hate to bust your balls Jordan, but that 9 in 3149 would round the 4 up to a 5, which means that the 1 would round to a 2. It would have to be a 3144 or smaller to round to a 3.1.

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                • Brew
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 3060

                  #38
                  Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                  Originally posted by Jordan
                  badging is rounded up.

                  3149cc = 3.1l
                  3150cc = 3.2l

                  his "3.2l" is barely a 3.1l
                  Hate to bust your balls Jordan, but that 9 in 3149 would round the 4 up to a 5, which means that the 1 would round to a 2. It would have to be a 3144 or smaller to round to a 3.1.
                  Nope, thats not how it works. You only use one number to round; in this case, the 4.
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                  • DrMcDave
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1793

                    #39
                    i am building the same engine this summer. Already have the crank and rods. 3.1, 3.2 whatever the hell you wanna call it. I couldn't even begin to regurgitate all the stuff jim told me on the phone when i called metric mechanic.

                    the crank issue/rods issue is that the block may have to massaged for clearance. He said not always but sometimes a little is required. The pistons are a nice design, and the tolerances on the pistons and rings are very tight. he said that it makes about 240 with the MM head, but i think he is fairly modest with his numbers or so i've heard. He told me that i should be able to get my ix into the high 13's with the engine (some other dude hit those numbers in an ix with the MM engine). A rwd car would be considerably quicker since its lighter and there is less drivetrain loss.

                    props on the engine. I can't wait to get mine started.

                    This thread is definetely one of the more interesting i've seen in a while

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                    • bmwdude
                      Wrencher
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 268

                      #40
                      Originally posted by glazierporvida
                      I havn't put it on a dyno yet, but its somewhere in the 250-260 range and you feel it from down around 3000 rpms and it snaps right up to 7000. Pretty amazing.
                      I've personally have never heard of a 3.2L. Has Metric Mechanic truly conjured up a formula that works? Actually, looking in the Roundel as I write this, they do have a "3200 Sport i" $8495 230HP listed.

                      Whether it is true or not, mathematically, and realistically, with perfect engine management tuning, a 3.2L M20 with 11.5:1 CR, should be able to spit out 250HP. Let us remember that Alpina C2 2.7 or B3 2.7's, were listed at 210hp, but the whole world (Europe anyways) new that they were more than that. For those who don't know, even the Alpina ECU had room for fine tuning, advance the timing curve even further, and for a more aggressive fuel map. I met a guy in England with a "chipped" C2 2.7, and he was at 246 flywheel hp!

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                      • clavinZERO
                        Hella sick E30
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2027

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 2002maniac
                        Originally posted by Jordan
                        Originally posted by glazierporvida
                        its somewhere in the 250-260 range
                        No, its not. Your "3.2" isn't a 3.2 either.

                        Go somewhere else.
                        Wow, somebody's jealous...

                        what ever happened to your 2.8 "stroker" you fucked up?
                        umm, that 2.8 picked my ass up from the airport and hauled balls back to Jordan's house. torquey mofo too.

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                        • SA E30
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1248

                          #42
                          Originally posted by bmwdude
                          Originally posted by glazierporvida
                          I havn't put it on a dyno yet, but its somewhere in the 250-260 range and you feel it from down around 3000 rpms and it snaps right up to 7000. Pretty amazing.
                          I've personally have never heard of a 3.2L. Has Metric Mechanic truly conjured up a formula that works? Actually, looking in the Roundel as I write this, they do have a "3200 Sport i" $8495 230HP listed.

                          Whether it is true or not, mathematically, and realistically, with perfect engine management tuning, a 3.2L M20 with 11.5:1 CR, should be able to spit out 250HP. Let us remember that Alpina C2 2.7 or B3 2.7's, were listed at 210hp, but the whole world (Europe anyways) new that they were more than that. For those who don't know, even the Alpina ECU had room for fine tuning, advance the timing curve even further, and for a more aggressive fuel map. I met a guy in England with a "chipped" C2 2.7, and he was at 246 flywheel hp!
                          What would 155kw = in HP ?

                          Cause, when we chip our 325iS's over here they get anywhere between 165kw and 170kw, otf. (BTW all our chips over here r custom tuned to each car)

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                          • permit
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 3363

                            #43
                            165kw~221 horses

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                            • Skafrog
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1729

                              #44
                              Alright, this shit has gone on for too long.
                              All you nay sayers, its possible to get mondo power out of an m20.
                              Get your lazy ass off the internet and go to a local BMW track event. Someone there will be running an m20 and making a shitload of power.
                              Just last weekend, Korman's 320i had an m20 in it, and was a freaking beast. Had to be way over 260 HP from the way the car was accelerating.
                              Steve Olsen won D Mod overall with an m20 a few years back. I believe it had way north of 250 HP.
                              See, if your not building a motor that lasts a long time, you can get the motor to make a ton of HP. I am not saying that this guy is making over 250, but it sure as hell is possible.

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                              • Jordan
                                R3V OG
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 12907

                                #45
                                I don't think anyone here is saying it isn't possible. Just that his is not.

                                I still maintain he is a moron.
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