High idle, lots of diagnosis!

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  • 5Toes
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 9836

    #1

    High idle, lots of diagnosis!

    Okay so my car idles high, its annoying!

    Here is what I have done:
    New intake boot
    New intake manifold gaskets
    New bitch tube gaskets
    New valve cover gasket
    All new vac lines
    M50 injectors with rebuild kits
    New oxygen sensor

    Otherwise bone stock car...

    Now with the oxygen sensor unplugged it idles right at 750! Except it wurrs back and forth ever so slightly. So I know a 750 idle is possible!

    I just tested my coolant temp sensor. In 180 degree water it is reading 300 ohms.. so spot on!

    I am thinking with this new o2 sensor I need to reset the ecu.. Ill try that later this week.

    Any ideas guys? I am fairly certain I dont have a major vacleak
  • 5Toes
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 9836

    #2
    Also, forgot to add that I have a new TPS as well. When i unplug my TPS idle shoots to 2000 something so ICV is working

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    • camip
      E30 Fanatic
      • Nov 2011
      • 1253

      #3
      Get a horse just add hay and water and no problems. Willing to trade my three horses for your one e30.

      pm me

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      • jlevie
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 13530

        #4
        You have replaced only about half of the stuff that can result in an intake leak. Have a smoke test run to see if there are any leaks. After eliminating any leaks you may need to adjust the throttle, but first look to see if someone has twiddled the bypass air adjustment in the AFM. It should be still sealed.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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        • 5Toes
          Banned
          • May 2010
          • 9836

          #5
          And how does one do that?

          EDIT: found out, I am pretty sure it has never been messed with.. the AFM
          Last edited by 5Toes; 07-27-2012, 12:21 PM.

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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            If you are asking how to do a smoke test, the procedure is:

            1) plug the exhaust
            2) replace the AFM with an adapter for smoke injection
            3) connect the smoke machine and feed in smoke until a pressure of 2-4psi is achieved
            4) hold that smoke pressure for at least five minutes so smoke can reach any leak
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • 5Toes
              Banned
              • May 2010
              • 9836

              #7
              Say I have no vac leaks.. what else could be the problem?

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                Once I had proof that there were no intakes by passing a smoke test and a vacuum test of the brake booster I'd consider other possibilities, but only then. Possible causes after intake leaks have been ruled out include:

                1) A bad or sticking ICV
                2) A sticking AFM vane
                3) Misadjusted idle air bypass adjustment in the AFM
                4) A sticking throttle plate or misadjusted throttle
                5) A bad evap control valve
                6) Power on the idle speed increase pin of the DME when A/C is off
                7) A fault in the DME
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • 5Toes
                  Banned
                  • May 2010
                  • 9836

                  #9
                  Well come to think of it i did make my own injector wiring harness. I need to test for continuity for the CTS... easy enough I am imagining.

                  ICV isnt sticking
                  AFM vane I believe is okay, will make sure though
                  throttle is fine.
                  evap control valve.. meh maybe
                  I see if the ac button does anything (AC is deleted)

                  Like I said I will reset DME and go form there

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                  • jlevie
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 13530

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 5Toes
                    Well come to think of it i did make my own injector wiring harness. I need to test for continuity for the CTS... easy enough I am imagining.

                    ICV isnt sticking
                    How would you know? You can't tell what the position of the vane is with the ICV connected to the engine.
                    AFM vane I believe is okay, will make sure though
                    That you can sort of check if you peel the plastic cover off.
                    throttle is fine.
                    How would you know if the throttle stop has been changed from the initial factory setting?
                    evap control valve.. meh maybe
                    I see if the ac button does anything (AC is deleted)

                    Like I said I will reset DME and go form there
                    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    • 5Toes
                      Banned
                      • May 2010
                      • 9836

                      #11
                      Ill read up on throttle stop screw. However what I meant is that the cable is adjusted right..

                      I thought icvs either work or they don't?

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                      • Stabmasterflex
                        Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 59

                        #12
                        I have same issue. I idle at 1000. I'm going to try that evap valve. I did have a bad throttle body gasket that I changed. Thought I had er beat. Nope.

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                        • 5Toes
                          Banned
                          • May 2010
                          • 9836

                          #13
                          Oh yes, my throttle pbody gasket is newer too

                          Ill try plugging that hole on the throttle with my finger and see..

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                          • 5Toes
                            Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 9836

                            #14
                            So as I said my AC is deleted.. but when pressing the ac switch and having it light up no change in idle is noticed

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                            • jlevie
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 13530

                              #15
                              That may mean that the A/C switch is bad, the slider switch is bad, or the A/C on signal isn't reaching the DME.
                              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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