M20 LOUD squeal on some cold starts (solved again)

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  • Sea Aych
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2013
    • 763

    #1

    M20 LOUD squeal on some cold starts (solved again)

    Just picked up an '89 325i a few weeks ago, and been baffled over this issue as it's almost impossible to recreate...it just happens randomly. On a cold start on warm days (usually after the car's been in the sun for a little while), sometimes (maybe 20% of the time) there's a seriously loud squeal that lasts maybe half a second when the engine catches and revs up. It immediately goes away and there are no issues/noises after that.
    It sounds like a belt (rubber slipping on metal).
    Does anyone know what it could be? I'm just baffled because i can't get it to happen again when i try. It seems just to do it randomly during those warmer days. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't...
    Any help greatly appreciated.
    Thanks!

    **NEW QUESTION in last post - didn't want to start a new thread
    Last edited by Sea Aych; 01-06-2014, 04:29 PM.
    1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
    1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
    1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
    My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!
  • Scallywagon
    E30 Fanatic
    • May 2010
    • 1200

    #2
    It probably is just that; a belt. Tighten all of the auxiliary belts and, report back
    ( f ; _ ; )f

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    • Sea Aych
      Mod Crazy
      • Apr 2013
      • 763

      #3
      Originally posted by Scallywagon
      It probably is just that; a belt. Tighten all of the auxiliary belts and, report back
      Yeah, i'll try it this week. I'm just curious as to why it only does it under certain circumstances, but then decides it doesn't want to. I was just worried that it would be pointing to a bigger issue
      1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
      1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
      1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
      My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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      • Scallywagon
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2010
        • 1200

        #4
        Originally posted by Sea Aych
        Yeah, i'll try it this week. I'm just curious as to why it only does it under certain circumstances, but then decides it doesn't want to. I was just worried that it would be pointing to a bigger issue
        Because rubber is highly susceptible to heat and, moisture. Expansion and contraction, if its not tight enough then you'll get slipping
        ( f ; _ ; )f

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        • Sea Aych
          Mod Crazy
          • Apr 2013
          • 763

          #5
          Belts look in good shape after a quick look last night, so I tightened them up a bit, but they didn't really need to go very far at all...Hopefully this works - i guess i'll find out soon enough. Thanks ppl!
          1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
          1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
          1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
          My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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          • cabriodster87
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jan 2011
            • 1042

            #6
            I've noticed that sometimes the starter is not disengaging from the flywheel fast enough. Quite a screechy sound.
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            • Sea Aych
              Mod Crazy
              • Apr 2013
              • 763

              #7
              Originally posted by cabriodster87
              I've noticed that sometimes the starter is not disengaging from the flywheel fast enough. Quite a screechy sound.
              Yeah, it actually is really screechy..what does ^ mean on my end?

              Tightened the belts (they're in decent shape too), but the noise is back, just as random as before.
              Probably will replace the belts i guess...It's not too expensive anyhow
              1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
              1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
              1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
              My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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              • Shanes325
                Advanced Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 165

                #8
                5speed? Could be a throw out bearing? Had it happen to me any couldn't find the problem. Then... 6 months later it starting chattering. Repaced and never had he noise again.

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                • Sea Aych
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 763

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shanes325
                  5speed? Could be a throw out bearing? Had it happen to me any couldn't find the problem. Then... 6 months later it starting chattering. Repaced and never had he noise again.
                  autotragic, but i'm swapping it now. So we'll see if it happens after that.. hoping it's just the AC or any other easy to replace belt :p
                  1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                  1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                  1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                  My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                  • Sea Aych
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 763

                    #10
                    Update: got a video w/ sound of it finally: happens pretty consistently now when it's below 45 degrees outside and it's been sitting all night. The video stops right as the sound stops btw, doesn't continue after that.
                    Any ideas? Thanks!

                    1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                    1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                    1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                    My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                    • Swanny
                      R3VLimited
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 2834

                      #11
                      M20 LOUD squeal on some cold starts

                      Spray some hair spray on the belts to rule them out.
                      Swanny!
                      SUCKERS.

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                      • Tom.
                        Advanced Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 121

                        #12
                        sounds like the starter to me.

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                        • Sea Aych
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 763

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Swanny
                          Spray some hair spray on the belts to rule them out.
                          not a bad idea, actually, but after what tom said, some quick youtubing shows that people have a similar sound with "starter squeal".
                          Originally posted by Tom.
                          sounds like the starter to me.
                          Which bit?
                          1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                          1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                          1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                          My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                          • peytonracer4
                            E30 Addict
                            • May 2011
                            • 524

                            #14
                            that sounds like a starter in the video. not a belt.


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                            • Sea Aych
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 763

                              #15
                              Originally posted by peytonracer4
                              that sounds like a starter in the video. not a belt.
                              How urgent is this....?
                              1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                              1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                              1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                              My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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