Valve adjustment for the 3rd time!?

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  • ajiiE30
    Noobie
    • Mar 2014
    • 29

    #1

    Valve adjustment for the 3rd time!?

    So the first time I did it, I clearly did something wrong and the ticking noise got louder than it before so I adjusted the valves again it definitely got a lot quieter but after I started it and drove it a couple of times the ticking noise came back. What am I doing wrong? The only thing I feel like I'm doing wrong is not having the cam lobe at TDC, if I adjust the valve with the lobe not being at 100% TDC will this cause problems?

    I turn the engine over for each valve and have to guess TDC because I don't have a good view.

    Whats the best way to do this? :(
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    TDC doesn't matter. all that matters is that the lobe is pointing away from the rocker.
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    • Gary Horneck
      E30 Addict
      • May 2011
      • 435

      #3
      Yup... lobes down. TDC not an issue.
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      • ajiiE30
        Noobie
        • Mar 2014
        • 29

        #4
        Originally posted by nando
        TDC doesn't matter. all that matters is that the lobe is pointing away from the rocker.
        Cool. I'll try it again. Is the slight drag necessary with the feeler gauge? The 2nd time I did it, I made it a bit tight so I'd actually have to give it a pull to get the feeler gauge out.

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #5
          you want a slight drag. if you have to yank on it you made it too tight.
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          • ajiiE30
            Noobie
            • Mar 2014
            • 29

            #6
            Originally posted by nando
            you want a slight drag. if you have to yank on it you made it too tight.
            Cool. Thanks for all the replies!

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            • Cabriolet
              R3V OG
              • Apr 2010
              • 9620

              #7
              the lobe needs to be down for the valve you are working on. usually you can do 2-4 valves at a time. we use the tool and it leaves a snug drag, and when cold the engine has almost no ticking.
              Much wow
              I hate 4 doors

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              • ajiiE30
                Noobie
                • Mar 2014
                • 29

                #8
                Originally posted by Cabriolet
                the lobe needs to be down for the valve you are working on. usually you can do 2-4 valves at a time. we use the tool and it leaves a snug drag, and when cold the engine has almost no ticking.
                Just finished adjusting all the valves and started it (cold engine) but I still hear a ticking noise.

                Here's a video:






                Video of ticking noise on first valve adjustment (big difference):

                Last edited by ajiiE30; 05-08-2014, 07:42 PM.

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                • MR 325
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 37827

                  #9
                  Just because the valves are properly adjusted doesn't mean the engine will be silent.
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                  • mpowerful
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 1273

                    #10
                    And stock injectors can be super ticky with age.

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                    • ajiiE30
                      Noobie
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 29

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MR 325
                      Just because the valves are properly adjusted doesn't mean the engine will be silent.
                      Originally posted by mpowerful
                      And stock injectors can be super ticky with age.
                      Of course. I was just curious to whether this ticking noise is normal? I honestly don't expect too much from a 27 year old engine with 250, XXX miles but I don't want to break anything by not running it the way its suppose to.

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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        Even when the valve s are correctly adjusted, if the valve guides are worn the valves will be noisy. With 250k on the engine there is pretty much no chance that the guides aren't worn.

                        An engine with a fresh head and correctly adjusted valves will tick when the engine is cold, but that noise will quiet down as the engine warms up. To the point of being almost inaudible if you stand beside the car with the hood closed one the engine is up to operating temperature.
                        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                        • Cabriolet
                          R3V OG
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9620

                          #13
                          sounds about right. the injects make a ticking noise as well. and the valves will make a very light ticking.

                          throw away that "cone intake." get a stock airbox from the junkyard it will out preform the cone in every way.
                          Much wow
                          I hate 4 doors

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                          • ajiiE30
                            Noobie
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 29

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cabriolet
                            sounds about right. the injects make a ticking noise as well. and the valves will make a very light ticking.

                            throw away that "cone intake." get a stock airbox from the junkyard it will out preform the cone in every way.
                            Cool. And for that "cone intake" it came with the car when I bought the car but I just picked up a 1987 325e bone stock, so I'll be swapping parts over to this car and hopefully have it running somewhat decent.

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                            • efficient
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3312

                              #15
                              I did a valve adjustment on my friends car like 3 times already because the m20 was loud. I adjusted the valves nice and snug but they're loud still. Im just thinking that the tappets are a bit worn down and maybe a nice oil change will keep the noise down. On another note the car feels like it pulls better.

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