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  • Wardie
    E30 Modder
    • Oct 2012
    • 824

    #1

    Refreshed engine woes.

    Refreshed M20 engine 2.7L Lower 2.5L Upper. MLS Headgasket and ARP Studs. Turbo.

    Soooo, I have oil leakage in a few places which I suspect to be valve cover related. What concerns me the most is the cars cooling is horrid, when driving normally around town I get up to 200-210f even alittle warming in traffic. When I start the car I get white smoke out the pipe but goes away once the car is warm.

    I am worried its a head gasket, or the head is warped. Is this common with MLS? I couldn't find much on a quick search. I don't think there would be any witch craft to a cooling system. Worth breaking it down and pulling the engine?

    Schwarz 1985 325e
  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5154

    #2
    The M20 seems to dump a lot of condensation cold
    (it's a byproduct of combustion)

    Taste it. If it's sweet, you have a leak.
    If it's just (nasty) water, then you can start looking elsewhere.

    t
    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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    • Wardie
      E30 Modder
      • Oct 2012
      • 824

      #3
      Originally posted by TobyB
      The M20 seems to dump a lot of condensation cold
      (it's a byproduct of combustion)

      Taste it. If it's sweet, you have a leak.
      If it's just (nasty) water, then you can start looking elsewhere.

      t

      Mmm, taste nasty nasty exhaust. Bahaha. None of my fluids are mixed and oil on the block.

      So crazy I might just try it thought.

      Schwarz 1985 325e

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37825

        #4
        You had the head resurfaced I hope?
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        • Wardie
          E30 Modder
          • Oct 2012
          • 824

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          You had the head resurfaced I hope?
          Yep and block, brand new MLS and studs. Three step torqued and retorqued after a few heat cycles.

          Schwarz 1985 325e

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          • e304me
            E30 Fanatic
            • Feb 2006
            • 1374

            #6
            isnt 200-220 totally normal?

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            • Wardie
              E30 Modder
              • Oct 2012
              • 824

              #7
              I've heard 180-190 is normal, 200 is starting to get concerning and 210 you shouldn't be driving.

              Schwarz 1985 325e

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              • Wardie
                E30 Modder
                • Oct 2012
                • 824

                #8
                Compression test:
                1:140
                2:150
                3:150
                4:150
                5:150
                6:150

                Did a coolant pressure test, found a minor leak but fixed and about same problem.

                After driving the car and letting it sit upon warming it up again I get white smoke smells like fuel and looks like water. After getting up to temp and about a minute of driving it goes away.

                Just drove it didn't go above 205.

                Should I pull the head and check for cracks?

                Schwarz 1985 325e

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                • TobyB
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 5154

                  #9
                  Have you bled it about a half- dozen times?

                  t
                  now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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                  • Wardie
                    E30 Modder
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 824

                    #10
                    Pressure bled it open the screw every once n awhile

                    Schwarz 1985 325e

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                    • AndrewBird
                      The Mad Scientist
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 11892

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wardie
                      I've heard 180-190 is normal, 200 is starting to get concerning and 210 you shouldn't be driving.
                      210 is fine. The only reason you would get concerned is if it normally was lower, then for no reason increased.

                      This is for an E34, but I"m sure the temps are similar on an E30:



                      You won't start creating damage until AT LEAST the start of the red zone. I know in my E34, the coolant temp warning doesn't come on until the end of the red zone, so even that hot is ok for a very brief amount.

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                      • Wardie
                        E30 Modder
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 824

                        #12
                        Mmm alright, at idle now I hover around 185-200 and driving is 195-210. Might be because the intercooler is blocking some air.

                        If that's accurate I'm not worried.

                        Schwarz 1985 325e

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                        • AndrewBird
                          The Mad Scientist
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 11892

                          #13
                          Does it cool down when you are moving, say, on the highway?

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