mill head + thin gasket?

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  • ptownTSI
    E30 Fanatic
    • Jun 2005
    • 1265

    #1

    mill head + thin gasket?

    So i'd like to mill my head down by about .025 or .03 along with run a thin head gasket to get the compression ratio up to about 9.5-9.75:1 or so. I know i would need to run premium but these bad boys have aluminum heads and should be able to do it fine.

    where can i get the thin gaskets?
  • 92 mtechnic cabrio
    Honesty is not the best policy!
    • Dec 2003
    • 4907

    #2
    The design of M20 heads actually cause a lot of detonation problems, even at a low 8.8:1 compression. Our heads have lots of hot spots or something. Many E30 owners are pinging even on 91 octane gas. Good luck running 9.5 compression in California.
    R.I.P 07/01/09 - 04/23/10 :(

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    • homegrone30
      E30 Fanatic
      • Jun 2007
      • 1449

      #3
      arent you supposed to run premium ne ways in these bad boys

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      • strad
        Wrencher
        • Jan 2007
        • 241

        #4
        My 92 E30 owner's manual says 87 minimum AKI, 91 RON is required.

        I don't know about others' experiences, but my own has been that my completely stock 158k M20b25 runs perfectly fine on 87, not a hint of pinging.

        If it were me, I'd go with chipping and camming before milling to get horsepower results, since with the former one can reverse the operation if it doesn't yield the desired results.
        The current fleet:
        1992 325ic: 148k-171k miles
        1999 Chevrolet Tahoe LT 4WD, 114k-142k miles
        1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes Powerslot (not a car :D) PCM Ford 351W, 904 hours

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        • MattE30
          E30 Mastermind
          • Oct 2003
          • 1520

          #5
          Mine ran fine on 87 octane (stock).

          97 Cosmos M3

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          • ptownTSI
            E30 Fanatic
            • Jun 2005
            • 1265

            #6
            i can mill a certain amount and stay SCCA legal in my class, i can't do a cam swap. also the timing is not going to be affected very much.

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #7
              be careful about valve to piston clearance... there isn't very much there.
              Build thread

              Bimmerlabs

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              • asubimmer
                R3V OG
                • Jul 2004
                • 6482

                #8
                yeah only the m42 and s14 take 91. The m20 and m10 take 87.
                ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                • SandyEggoE30Girl
                  Wencher
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 318

                  #9
                  I have to run 91 in my 1987is. If I don't it pings really bad? Especially on a warm day.

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                  • ptownTSI
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1265

                    #10
                    you need to do an upper engine treatment.

                    take the plugs out and pour a tablespoon of seafoam down each of holes, let it sit there for an hour or two. then crank the engine over with the plugs out of it to eject all the solution that didnt seap past the rings.

                    put the plugs back in the motor and pour the rest of the bottle down a vacuum tube, sucking it up as fast as possible so the motor starts to run rough, when you get to the end try to pour it in quickly and then shut it off immediately. the goal here is to get it liquiefied into the motor, on the valves and pistons.

                    let it sit for 15 mins.

                    go for a really hard drive and then change your oil.

                    that should do it. if you need to run 91 something is wrong with your motor or it is modified. excessive deposits on the internals can cause it to ping and need higher octane. you are only covering up the problem.

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