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  • 85Ecoupe
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 81

    #1

    My bimmer needs help

    HOW DO YOU TIME A M20?????
    just finished rebuilding motor and it will crank but i think it is 180 degrees off timing because the motor will stop cranking (im doing it my hand) at a certain point. and i can go all the way around the opposite direction and it will stop there again.

    please help me out
  • e30Matt
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2003
    • 5077

    #2
    Line up crankshaft pulley and block marks.

    Line up camshaft pulley and head casting marks.

    Install belt. Spin motor two full turns, if all marks line up again you're golden.

    "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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    • 85Ecoupe
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 81

      #3
      i did that.

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      • jlevie
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 13530

        #4
        How did you manage that if the engine won't turn thorugh a full revolution?

        Double check the cam timing, or better yet get someone else familiar with these engines to do the check to avoid the "same mistake twice syndrome". If the cam timing is correct something is wrong inside the engine. To find it I'd start by pulling the head, rotating the engine and checking each piston's deck height. If those are all correct you have to look to the head for the problem.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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        • 85Ecoupe
          Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 81

          #5
          could it be that the engine was not on the compression stroke when i put the head on?

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          • 85Ecoupe
            Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 81

            #6
            i still dont know how to adjust timing"p

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            • strad
              Wrencher
              • Jan 2007
              • 241

              #7
              Originally posted by 85Ecoupe
              could it be that the engine was not on the compression stroke when i put the head on?
              It doesn't matter whether it's compression stroke. The bottom half doesn't care what the top half is doing, as long as the marks line up when you start and after 2 full crank revolutions.
              The current fleet:
              1992 325ic: 148k-171k miles
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              • 85Ecoupe
                Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 81

                #8
                ok, ive been going over what happened, and i lined the marks up on both the crank and the cam. Next I put the timing belt on. And after the i adjusted the valves. Now while i was adjusting the valves I manually cranked the motor to get each cylinder at TDC. i probably went more than 2 times around. Only after i tried to start the car(which all it did was turn the starter because i unhooked the spark so i could prime the motor) and it stopped turning over. I then took out all of the spark plugs to relieve compression and i tried turning it by hand. It would go about 1 rotation and then stop. I went the opposite direction and it stopped at the same point.


                Ok, now what i think happened was i took the metal pin out of the tensioner spring because the timing belt would not go on otherwise(a retarded move on my part i dont need to be flamed, i already flamed myself) I think it popped out and timing jumped. does this sound plausible???
                Last edited by 85Ecoupe; 11-01-2007, 05:32 PM.

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                • 85Ecoupe
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 81

                  #9
                  i just took the head back off....... im screwed...

                  4 exhaust valves have broken off and 2 pistons are gouged.

                  oh yeah i know what happened, it jumped timing:s

                  what should i do now?????? i head conversion, new motor(s14, 302, 350, M50 etc....)

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                  • JasonC
                    Site Manager
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 14451

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 85Ecoupe
                    what should i do now?????? i head conversion, new motor(s14, 302, 350, M50 etc....)
                    supercharged or turbo 4.3 v6

                    1992 BMW 325iC
                    1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                    1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                    • E30SPDFRK
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 5687

                      #11
                      Buy my engine! http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...d=1#post879811
                      Byron
                      Leichtbau

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                      • blueapplesoda
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1904

                        #12
                        new motor time 1000 hp s38 turbo :-D

                        but on a more serious note

                        drop a 3.0l in that mug

                        All-Red/MHW style Professional Tinted Tail lights
                        PnP EMS, fuel injectors, wideband o2 systems

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                        • 85Ecoupe
                          Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 81

                          #13
                          im thinkin bout a mustang 5.0 beast muahahaha...ha


                          350is anyone?

                          BTW if anyone has info on this swap i need it :) thanks

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                          • Alex E24 E30
                            Noobie
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3

                            #14
                            something is just wrong with crossbreeding

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                            • 85Ecoupe
                              Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 81

                              #15
                              hey man just think....

                              amazing body/handling/goodness of the BMW+raw american muscle=pure bliss!

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