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  • bimmer_E30
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2007
    • 5001

    #1

    M20 freaks...

    i need help, i have another 325i for parts that has about 240,000KMS thats about 150,000miles or somthing. it runs good but it was involved in a front end accident . so should i swap the complete engine into my 325e along with the wiring harness and trans, or just do the 327i conversion???
    Originally posted by e30e
    lose the old man bmwcca badge.
  • indecline
    Wrencher
    • Sep 2007
    • 244

    #2
    Don't be a sleaze and use the 2.7L Bottem-end (ETA)
    1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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    • bimmer_E30
      R3V Elite
      • Dec 2007
      • 5001

      #3
      hmm.
      Originally posted by e30e
      lose the old man bmwcca badge.

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      • bimmer_E30
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2007
        • 5001

        #4
        i need help homies.
        Originally posted by e30e
        lose the old man bmwcca badge.

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        • kenika65
          E30 Fanatic
          • Aug 2007
          • 1336

          #5
          2.7i all the way, If it was me I would even leave the eta head on and just bolt on the i parts to run the 1.3Motronic

          1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
          1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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          • e30bmlover
            Noobie
            • Jun 2008
            • 10

            #6
            i thought a 2.7 could be made from a 525e bottom end and a 325i head??

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            • bimmer_E30
              R3V Elite
              • Dec 2007
              • 5001

              #7
              325e , and 528e have the same engine.
              Originally posted by e30e
              lose the old man bmwcca badge.

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              • kenika65
                E30 Fanatic
                • Aug 2007
                • 1336

                #8
                so 2.7i it is?

                eta bottom end with all i parts that is the only way to go well if you love torque!

                1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
                1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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                • submwar
                  Wrencher
                  • May 2006
                  • 216

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kenika65
                  so 2.7i it is?

                  eta bottom end with all i parts that is the only way to go well if you love torque!
                  you're better off this way, you'll thank yourself in the end for the extra effort

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                  • bimmer_E30
                    R3V Elite
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 5001

                    #10
                    but ,how about the lack of compression ratio???
                    Originally posted by e30e
                    lose the old man bmwcca badge.

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                    • yberther
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1246

                      #11
                      use custom pistons or seta domed pistons...

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                      Originally posted by Indecline06
                      For some reason, when I get super duper ultra stoned... The M30 motor reminds me of big bird from sesame street.

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                      • kenika65
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1336

                        #12
                        just leave the eta head on and you will have 9.0:1 compression and a perfect idle like im running.

                        1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
                        1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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                        • bimmer_E30
                          R3V Elite
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 5001

                          #13
                          but can i rev more than 5000rpm with the e head??
                          Originally posted by e30e
                          lose the old man bmwcca badge.

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                          • SpecM
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4531

                            #14
                            -Yes etas are good for about 5300.
                            1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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                            • kenika65
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1336

                              #15
                              Alright the only thing slowing the eta down is the 1.0basic Motronic so what you need to do is read this and hope fully it will help.



                              All eta engines used Bosch Motronic engine management systems that were calibrated for maximum fuel economy. The result was a very conservative spark advance curve and fuel delivery curve. In addition, the Motronic had a built-in rev limiter that engaged at about 4750 rpm. This very low redline was the result of the four bearing cam, soft valve springs, intake manifold and camshaft design. Due to the very low overlap and short duration of the cam and the intake manifold tuning, the motor does not make any power over about 5,000 RPM.
                              Late 1987 cars produced between December 1986 and September 1987 featured larger valves but were mostly unchanged compared to previous models. Starting in cars produced from September 1987 for the 1988 model year, the eta cars got a more substantial refresh from the factory. This included the more recent Bosch Motronic version 1.1/1.3 with adaptive idle control and revised circuitry, the "885" head casting with the larger valves, ports and revised combustion chambers, new pistons to fit the 2.7 L stroke with the 2.5 L head, a special one year only intake manifold with even narrower runners that opened up at the flanges to match the larger ports of the new head, a dual exhaust system and a 5300 RPM rev limit. A new 6000rpm tachometer was also used. Though it only made slightly more power in stock form, it could be easily boosted by installing a 325i cam and springs, a complete 325i intake manifold and throttle and plugging in the 325i engine control unit. Depending on which cam, chip and intake is used, the combination can make over 180 horsepower with the stock compression ratio.
                              In aftermarket modifications that are inspired by custom versions of Alpina and AC Schnitzer, the long-stroke eta engine block is often combined with a 325i head to a so-called 327i that combines the high low-rev torque of the eta with the top-range power of the 325i.



                              Simply put just do what I have done and swap the 1.1/1.3M harness in and get to burning them tires.


                              I take my stock eta (w/ i double valve springs) to the 6800 redline all the time. Of course I couldn't do it with out 1.3M and all the i parts. Remember the eta has 9.0:1 compression.

                              If you still have questions then click on every LINK in my 2.7i how to in my sig.
                              Last edited by kenika65; 06-04-2008, 06:11 PM.

                              1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
                              1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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