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  • claylake
    Noobie
    • Jan 2008
    • 21

    #1

    Replacing plug wires - impulse generator wire

    I am replacing my ignition wires. Is there a connector between the senor and the #6 wire or did I get the wrong wire set? The connector on my wire set (12121720529) is a flat plug. The one on the sensor near the harmonic balancer is round. Am I unable to see a male and female connector on a bracket? It's night and hard to see. Great if somone has a pic but any direction would be appreciated.
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    what motor do you have?
    Build thread

    Bimmerlabs

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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      The Cylinder ID and the CPS connectors are under the intake manifold at about where the dipstick and diagnostic plug is.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • claylake
        Noobie
        • Jan 2008
        • 21

        #4
        Sorry, I have an M20 1990 325i but the engine was replaced and I do not remember what year the donor was, 1987 maybe?

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        • claylake
          Noobie
          • Jan 2008
          • 21

          #5
          Originally posted by jlevie
          The Cylinder ID and the CPS connectors are under the intake manifold at about where the dipstick and diagnostic plug is.
          So do I access from the drivers side? Are there two types of Impulse Generator connectors?

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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            Yes, you reach the connection from the driver's side of the engine bay. I'm not aware of any differences in the ignition wire sets for different production dates for an M20B25. In fact the engine in my Spec E30 is a mix-n-match now. The engine came out of a 1990 525i, the harness from a 91 E30 vert and I'm using the new ignition wires I installed on the original 87 engine. After a couple of mods to the wiring harness to adapt it to the earlier production car, everything mated up and worked perfectly.
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • claylake
              Noobie
              • Jan 2008
              • 21

              #7
              Light of day

              Originally posted by jlevie
              Yes, you reach the connection from the driver's side of the engine bay. I'm not aware of any differences in the ignition wire sets for different production dates for an M20B25. In fact the engine in my Spec E30 is a mix-n-match now. The engine came out of a 1990 525i, the harness from a 91 E30 vert and I'm using the new ignition wires I installed on the original 87 engine. After a couple of mods to the wiring harness to adapt it to the earlier production car, everything mated up and worked perfectly.
              Thanks, perhaps in the light of day it will appear more obvious. I have been struggling with a no spark issue and the only thing left after plug wires, cap, and rotor is the pulse generator.

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                If you have no spark out of the coil the candidates are:

                1) Bad coil or no power to the coil
                2) Bad CPS
                3) Bad Main relay
                4) Bad DME
                5) Bad fusible link

                A further diagnostic is to check for firing pulses at the injectors while cranking over the engine. If there aren't any (2)-(5) become the possibilities.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • claylake
                  Noobie
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 21

                  #9
                  Thanks

                  Thanks for the help guys. New ignition wires fixed it. Replacing the pulse wire was aggravating. The fan is always in the way. Another reason to consider fan delete with a SPAL.

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                  • jlevie
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 13530

                    #10
                    The fan isn't that big a deal. It is easy to remove and as long as the clutch is good works very well, thank you.

                    If you delete the fan and replace it with an electric one. Use a fan rated for at least 1800cfm and do not, repeat do not, mount it directly to the radiator. The push through the radiator mounts will eat a hole in the radiator before long. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out how I know that. And an electric replacement for the engine driven fan needs an 81-82C thermo switch and relay for control. All in all, several times the price of a fan and clutch.
                    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    • Atreus
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1846

                      #11
                      necro bump.

                      i was searching for this today, and it appears that i have two old spark plug wire sets, and they both have the impulse plug, however the original one on my 89 cirrusblau 325i didn't have any. and the two plugs under the connectors were for, the CPS, and some unknown other one.

                      why are they different? all the wire sets were from 325i motors, various years of course.

                      93 - vert
                      91 - vert
                      89 - coupe
                      1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                      1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                      1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                      1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                      1994 540i - Granitsilber

                      Originally posted by scabzzzz
                      I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        All M20B25 engines use an ignition wire set that has the Cylinder ID Sensor. If the wire set on you 89 didn't have that, the wrong wire set was swapped in at some point in the past.
                        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                        • Atreus
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1846

                          #13
                          okay, however underneath the diagnostic plug by my oil dipstick, there is a plug for my CPS, and some other plug that goes into a larger harness that runs along the block by the starter.... what is that then?
                          1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                          1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                          1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                          1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                          1994 540i - Granitsilber

                          Originally posted by scabzzzz
                          I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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                          • jlevie
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 13530

                            #14
                            That could be the connector for the Cylinder ID signal, oil level sensor, evap valve, or TPS. All of those are three wire connectors. If all but the Cylinder ID connectors are attached to their sensors, you know by process of elimination what that connector is for.
                            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                            • Atreus
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1846

                              #15
                              weird. i do not have any missing plugs. everything is plugged in. and it runs fine. it ran fine with the previous ignition wire set, which didn't include a pulse generator..
                              1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                              1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                              1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                              1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                              1994 540i - Granitsilber

                              Originally posted by scabzzzz
                              I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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