Alpina 333i Intake

[Erik]

Using Alpina's logo (i'm sure its trademarked) without their consent on something you sell is not ok if you just say its a replica. Ebay is not where you should go for legal advice

This.

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Second of all, the logo looks identical to the real thing because I took a high resolution picture of the real manifold, did numerous sketchings and clean-ups to create a .tiff file

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Self-incriminating evidence. You're a moron.

[Stephen]

Using Alpina's logo (i'm sure its trademarked) without their consent on something you sell is not ok if you just say its a replica. Ebay is not where you should go for legal advice

[scabzzzz]

nice fake parts. When you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

[Japandrew73]

Can I use your riveting defense statement in the coutroom when/if my replica Rolex plans hit the fan???

nice fake parts. when you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

Sarcasm crew is back in action! What I like to see :up:

I'll fill you guys in with the details when I've finished the project in a few weeks.

The reason Alpina relocated the throttle body is so the airbox could be on the drivers side like the e30 originally came with. No relocating washer reservoirs or anything like that. The 333i had a special bottom part of the airbox and the "L" shaped hose going from the airbox into the throttle body is also an Alpina special part. All impossible to find (except from KSK) and when asked for a quote for any of these parts, you'll see a number that would shock you. The intake also has two hose fittings stacked vertically above the throttle body for the brake booster.

Japandrew, pm me when you are ready to sell one of these.

Will do

[rhett325i]

Japandrew, pm me when you are ready to sell one of these.

[gazellebeigem3]

nice fake parts. when you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

[TDE30]

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay.

Can I use your riveting defense statement in the coutroom when/if my replica Rolex plans hit the fan???

[chadthestampede]

Back to the program. When you put the intake on the other side, do you just bolt a blank plate to the original opening? I never fully understood fluid dynamics, but I take it reversing where the air comes from doesn't change the flow much -- or when it's pushed by a turbo it matters not?

That's what I've seen, I'm assuming you just throw a plate with a gasket on there. The original alpina intake is that basic design, so I can't imagine it changes the flow all that much or they wouldn't have done it, and the 333i wasn't tarboed.

[chadthestampede]

I would agree with you 100%, if this was the tail end of the 1980s. I don't think Alpina produces these manifolds anymore and the likeliness of finding a real one is slim to none. I really don't see these reproductions taking any business away from Alpina and as long as they are advertised as reproductions then the buyers aren't being scammed either. Now, whether it is actually legal or not? I have no idea but that is my $0.02 on the discussion.

I agree with this. They are quite literally impossible to find. As long as he doesn't tote it as an original I think he's alright.

I was going to cite Ary or Mel Abrahams as an example, but then I realized they don't put the original logo on their parts. Still, though, I think you'd be alright as long as you aren't mass producing them. Who knows.

[browntown]

Back to the program. When you put the intake on the other side, do you just bolt a blank plate to the original opening? I never fully understood fluid dynamics, but I take it reversing where the air comes from doesn't change the flow much -- or when it's pushed by a turbo it matters not?

[wildstoats]

I am not sure how true this is - "First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two"

I am sure if you make a replica for yourself it's fine, but if you start making them to sell it's another....?

I would agree with you 100%, if this was the tail end of the 1980s. I don't think Alpina produces these manifolds anymore and the likeliness of finding a real one is slim to none. I really don't see these reproductions taking any business away from Alpina and as long as they are advertised as reproductions then the buyers aren't being scammed either. Now, whether it is actually legal or not? I have no idea but that is my $0.02 on the discussion.

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay. There's no way they've all been selling illegally and nobody's called them on it.

I would use that as your legal defense in a courtroom.

Cheers,
Brian

[Japandrew73]

I am not sure how true this is - "First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two"

I am sure if you make a replica for yourself it's fine, but if you start making them to sell it's another....?

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay. There's no way they've all been selling illegally and nobody's called them on it. I really don't care anyways, e30rida sounds out of his mind.

[Jean]

I am not sure how true this is - "First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two"

I am sure if you make a replica for yourself it's fine, but if you start making them to sell it's another....?

[Japandrew73]

That Alpina logo doesn't look anything like the original deal. Who are you trying to fool anyways. Wonder what Mr. Bovensiepen has to say about all the alpina crap you are trying to ilegally copying. Unload the big bucks and buy the real deal.

First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two. Second of all, the logo looks identical to the real thing because I took a high resolution picture of the real manifold, did numerous sketchings and clean-ups to create a .tiff file, and sent it to the machinist. Mr. Bovenseipen would probably say the exact same thing about the dozens of ebay replica kits modeled after Alpina. It's business- you're going to have competition and reproductionists. Talk to me once you get up off of that crack rock.

[george graves]

^wut?