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    Replicate m30b35 in Alpina/Hartge

    If you look at the figures that Alpina/Hartge makes from that engine, it's pretty amazing at 261hp and 346nm Torque. I've contacted both companies and only way I can get replacement parts or more info is if I actually own one. But I do not so they cannot give any more info on it. I know I can turbo it instead but I read posts of people attempting to make na power and it's almost close but not enough. I just haven't seen anyone on the forum make a post about it so here I am doing it.

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    Lookup the username Japandrew73.

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      #3
      high compression pistons, aggressive cam, hours and hours of flow bench work will put you there.
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        #5
        Alpina B6 3.5 e30 261hp.
        Alpina cam
        Alpina 2mm larger valves
        Alpina headers
        Ported and polished head
        High CP

        Hartge H35 1984-87 250hp
        H35 1988-91 240hp
        Hartge cam
        Hartge 2mm larger valves
        Hartge headers
        Extreme ported and polished
        High CP.

        I do own a m30 Hartge head. My friend Frank owns a Hartge H35 m30 b34 motor.
        Last edited by e30m3s54turbo; 02-21-2014, 06:45 PM.
        Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

        DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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          #6
          Don't leave out Schnitzer and their 3.7L @ 275 hp.

          Lorin


          Originally posted by slammin.e28
          The M30 is God's engine.

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            #7
            And now we have better coating technology and engine control systems. Attention to detail will get you there.
            Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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              #8
              I can't imagine it is worth it. Cost benefit is brutal. Cool factor of course. But lots of cash spent to be cool.

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              Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
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                #9
                [QUOTE=LJ851;4035599]Don't leave out Schnitzer and their 3.7L @ 275 hp.

                Lorin, I didn't for get about the AC Schnitzer 3.7. It is one of my favorite tuner motor.
                Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                  #10
                  Cost/benefit = chip and gear change

                  I spent under $1750 shipped on new custom pistons, and ported head/cam combo (which was an awesome deal). Another $ 450 on block magnaflux, boring, decking, cleaning and assembling my new pistons to the rods. Bearings, gaskets, timing chain, and miscellaneous engine hardware was probably another $400. My oil pump is not new but has good pressure.

                  Then there is the cost of a new clutch, hoses, exhaust... It all adds up but in my case I have a motor that should last for 200K plus with proper maintenance.
                  Last edited by Bearmw; 02-22-2014, 08:31 AM.
                  Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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                    #11
                    I just tried to order the Alpina headers last week. It's a two piece set. One piece is NLA and they wanted a VIN before they would sell the other. I'm a sad panda :(

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                      #12
                      Try ebay Germany. Some time they come up for sale between 300-550 euros.
                      Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                      DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                        #13
                        FWIW the closer you want it to replicate an original Hartge, Schnitzer, or Alpina the more it will cost. Period correct is cool but expensive.
                        Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. -Mark Twain

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                          #14
                          One would think they could be replicated with todays technology and aftermarket. Parts are still expensive though

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                            #15
                            Here, buy the whole car. It will be cheaper.

                            Originally posted by codyep3
                            I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
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