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  • Rhino
    Advanced Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 156

    #1

    This motor is pissing me off!

    Ok well today i got around to removing the head. I got in there and to my surprise the head gasket looked fine. So did the head its self. So at this point i am very confused. I tried checking it with a striaght edge and it seems to be ok.

    Here are some photos.










    My syptoms are as follows OVer heating, Poor to no circulation. The motor was severly over heated once. I thought it leaked a little water on side of the head next to cyclinder 2. I tried to bleed the system by opening the vent on the radiator. It just keeps pumping air out. The previous 1-3 Cylinder has 130 psi, 4 cyclinder has 175. Any ideas would be great.

    IIT has a new radator and cap and the previous owner said it has a new ater pump and thermostat and New Hoses.

    Any help[ would be great i have very little time to make this car run.
  • Rhino
    Advanced Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 156

    #2
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    • abepark
      Grease Monkey
      • Feb 2006
      • 384

      #3
      I would get the block pressure tested.

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      • rs4pro3
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5808

        #4
        looks like a problem with the gasket between 2 and 3 on the exhuast side, see how the head is blacker in those spots, and the exhuast valves are a different color.
        85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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        • kenika65
          E30 Fanatic
          • Aug 2007
          • 1336

          #5
          That head gasket was blown in the middle two cylinders so just clean it up and put it back together with a new Hg and head bolts, whall your at it I would get the head cleaned up and re grind the valves.

          Last edited by kenika65; 06-16-2008, 09:38 AM.

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          1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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          • The Barvarian
            Advanced Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 162

            #6
            Any ideas as to why #4 was 175 on compression?
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            • kenika65
              E30 Fanatic
              • Aug 2007
              • 1336

              #7
              Originally posted by The Barvarian
              Any ideas as to why #4 was 175 on compression?

              ??? if you are talking about this motor then 175 is good compression which means that the head gasket isn't blown and the valves arent burnt. And in this case #4 is blown. 2 and 3 are.

              1986 325es (69k) Garage Queen Buy It Now 10k;1986 325es (track rat) 2.7i How-To & 1.1/1.3Motronic UpGrade
              1991 318is (daily driver) 1991 318is M42 Maintenance How-To;1989 325i (parts car)

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              • kencopperwheat
                King of Kegstands
                • Oct 2003
                • 14396

                #8
                You should be up around 190-200 for good compression. 130 is way too low for combustion on these motors.
                Originally posted by Gruelius
                and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                • Rhino
                  Advanced Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 156

                  #9
                  What parts besides the head gasket would get me back the compresion i am missing?

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                  • e30pq
                    E30 Addict
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 579

                    #10
                    I agree. It looks like cyl 2 and cyl 3 are leaking.

                    I also agree that you should have a machine shop check the head. If its time for a valve job you might as well do it. If not, you should have them check for cracks and deck the head just to confirm that it's true.

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                    • Rhino
                      Advanced Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 156

                      #11
                      How can i get back the missing compresion

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                      • kencopperwheat
                        King of Kegstands
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 14396

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rhino
                        How can i get back the missing compresion
                        You need to determine what's causing the compression leak first.

                        Have the head pressure tested, and see if that's causing it. It looks like 2 and 3 are leaking. If the head turns out fine, then slap another gasket on there and mount it back up. If pressure is still low, then it's your rings.
                        Originally posted by Gruelius
                        and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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                        • Rhino
                          Advanced Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 156

                          #13
                          I got my anwser i think.

                          I am welcome to plenty more comments and ideas!
                          Last edited by Rhino; 06-16-2008, 11:54 PM.

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                          • Fidhle007
                            I can fly, motherfucker
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7209

                            #14
                            You should have that head rebuilt, it's probably warped. Have it decked and the valves redone, then clean up the top of your block a bit and I'm pretty sure you'll have fixed the problem. BMW bottom ends are pretty stout but DOHC heads warp/crack like a motherfucker.
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                            • Fidhle007
                              I can fly, motherfucker
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7209

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kenika65
                              That head gasket was blown in the middle two cylinders so just clean it up and put it back together with a new Hg and head bolts.
                              Go back to your rice cars and stop spreading misinformation. BMW headgaskets are much sturdier than those of other companies that "blow headgaskets" and when you have an issue like this it's a problem with the head. If it's not cracked, it's warped. Get it decked, valves done and clean up the block. Putting it back together with a new gasket is something that would be done by someone to who paints a motor and calls it rebuilt.
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