Transmission wiring for M52TUB28 with Automatic Swap

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  • bimmeup02
    Noobie
    • Mar 2026
    • 3

    #1

    Transmission wiring for M52TUB28 with Automatic Swap

    Hey all, I'm brand new here and have a question that I couldn't quite get answered in the search.

    I know this is an e30 forum but I do believe my question could mostly apply to an e30 swap? I have recently acquired a 1982 e21 (US spec) that had been previously converted, very poorly, to M52TUB28 with its GM 5L40 Auto gearbox from a 2000 e39 528i. The car runs and drives, but whoever did the swap did not build a proper swap harness, instead they took the entire cockpit wiring harness and carried that over in a bundle on the passenger floor. As stated, the car runs and drives, so the engine harness was done correct...enough, but that's it.

    Not only is this interior mess unsightly, but it's rather dangerous. Well, I am working to clean up this mess by removing everything but what is needed to run the car and make the transmission work. After I get this sorted out I'll take it one proper step further, I have purchased a proper swap harness (Redline) for the e21/M52TU combo, but have not installed it just yet as I also have recently purchased a standalone ECU (DIY-EFI Core4 Speeduino) that will be installed permanently once the wiring is sorted. The ECU from DIY-EFI is a plug-n-play unit, I've already tested it out on this messy harness and it works fantastic...throttle response is amazing. I can blip the throttle 3x in the amount of time it takes for one stock rev, and the acceleration is way better. Anyway, I'll report on the results of the Speeduino unit at a later date, gotta get this transmission sorted first.

    I do plan to swap in a 6-speed gearbox in the not too distant future, but those are hard to find and/or expensive, and my job has me traveling very frequently, so until then I will need to make this slushbox work better than it does. One problem I can definitely see is that, since the gearbox has no sort of vehicle/wheel speed reference being sent to the TCU (no ABS in 1982) it shifts through all of the 5 gears by the time I reach about 30 mph (50 kph). Until just recently I could move the gear lever into the Sport position and shift gears manually, but in my attempts to clear out unneeded bits of the e39 wiring I must have disturbed some wire(s) that the gearbox needs? I took great care to not remove anything associated with the Transmission Control Unit or the shifter, all harnesses are intact, and as far as I could find, the factory MS42 ECU did not play a role in the operation of the auto gearbox, but now I only get indications of sport mode, no actual shifts happen?
    Anyone out there have any experience doing a similar M5x Auto swap into an e21/e30 and care to help me parse out what little bit I need to make the gearbox work in Sport (manual) mode? I really don't care much about working in full auto mode unless there's an easy solution. I've read all sorts of info about Can-Bus inputs, and needing to program the TCU, but there's gotta be an easy(er) way to make this box work in one mode or the other...WITHOUT needing to keep a ton of wires from the e39 donor car.

    So to sum it up, I have the proper M52TU Engine Harness and ECU, I have the Automatic Transmission and TCU that it came with, but I also have the whole e39 front cockpit harness coiled up on the passenger floor, likely because the original swapper didn't want to deal with the EWS Delete (which I've done) and the work needed to trim down to the bare necessities of the cockpit wiring. Thanks in advance
  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5251

    #2
    Oh, Christ on a Crisp.

    First and foremost, I'd recommend NOT using the MS42 DME at all. That throttle body is a fiasco.
    The fuel system is rather complicated as well.

    You'll be miles ahead either going straight to aftermarket, or hitting the local junkyards for an
    MS43 DME, throttle body, pedal, and wiring harness out of a slightly later I6 E39. The E39
    harness has enough wire to put the DME in the glove box, and the MS43 will pretty much
    work straight out of the donor.

    You CAN convert the MS42 harness to work with the MS43 DME and throttle system, but since you're
    starting from base principles, I'd just get the MS43 setup complete.
    Then, if you still want to use the slushbox, you can add that harness as well.

    The downside to all this is that the slushbox EGS needs some data from the ABS computer,
    and then the DME wants to do a 3- way once that's all up and running.
    So you THEN need to get the ABS from whichever DME and EGS you're using, and get
    it the wheelspeed data it needs. And the plumbing. It's all do- able. But there are lots of details,
    not the least is getting the right tone rings onto the hubs... which you don't have on an E21.

    I'd go straight to an aftermarket ECU and a 5- speed with a 2.93- 3.15 diff. The E21 is a light little
    car- it's going to scoot with an M52b28 in it. So 6th isn't going to be a necessity.

    You've probably found these, but:


    www.realoem.com
    www.e46fanatics.com for lots of MS42-3-5 help
    and a wayback machine search for wedophones.com, which has the earlier wiring diagrams for the E21...

    I have an E21 and some M54 parts- one of these decades I'd love to marry them.... after lots of other stuff gets done...

    t
    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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    • DesertBMW
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Aug 2011
      • 1030

      #3
      You don't need manual 6 speed transmission to work with M52TUB, any manual transmission that is easy to find like 5 speed Getrag 250 will work fine with that engine, any manual that fits M50 will fit that engine also. Then what is the point of trying to make that auto to go into sport mode, it doesn't make it faster. If everything runs fine like it is, then try to shorten and resolder each wire one by one., to sort out the wiring mess.

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      • bimmeup02
        Noobie
        • Mar 2026
        • 3

        #4
        Originally posted by TobyB
        Oh, Christ on a Crisp.

        First and foremost, I'd recommend NOT using the MS42 DME at all. That throttle body is a fiasco.
        The fuel system is rather complicated as well.

        You'll be miles ahead either going straight to aftermarket, or hitting the local junkyards for an
        MS43 DME, throttle body, pedal, and wiring harness out of a slightly later I6 E39. The E39
        harness has enough wire to put the DME in the glove box, and the MS43 will pretty much
        work straight out of the donor.

        You CAN convert the MS42 harness to work with the MS43 DME and throttle system, but since you're
        starting from base principles, I'd just get the MS43 setup complete.
        Then, if you still want to use the slushbox, you can add that harness as well.

        The downside to all this is that the slushbox EGS needs some data from the ABS computer,
        and then the DME wants to do a 3- way once that's all up and running.
        So you THEN need to get the ABS from whichever DME and EGS you're using, and get
        it the wheelspeed data it needs. And the plumbing. It's all do- able. But there are lots of details,
        not the least is getting the right tone rings onto the hubs... which you don't have on an E21.

        I'd go straight to an aftermarket ECU and a 5- speed with a 2.93- 3.15 diff. The E21 is a light little
        car- it's going to scoot with an M52b28 in it. So 6th isn't going to be a necessity.

        You've probably found these, but:


        www.realoem.com
        www.e46fanatics.com for lots of MS42-3-5 help
        and a wayback machine search for wedophones.com, which has the earlier wiring diagrams for the E21...

        I have an E21 and some M54 parts- one of these decades I'd love to marry them.... after lots of other stuff gets done...

        t
        Hey thanks for the valuable info, and after searching for relevant info and then for aftermarket/standalone trans controllers, the manual gearbox is looking like a must have...NOW. As for the ECU, I bought the mess like this with the factory e39 bits (engine, ecu, automatic box with it's tcu) but the plan always was to rip out the MS42 DME and go standalone, hence the purchase of the Core4 Speeduino https://diy-efi.co.uk/product/core4-bmw-m52tu-m54-pnp I've already test driven the car with the Core4, and can say for certain that even with the base tune that was on it from DIY-EFI and after a 10 min drive letting TunerStudio Autotune it, it drives sooo much nicer than the MS42, mostly because the throttle response is lightyears better. I can't wait until I can actually tune it...Wow!
        On to the subject of gearboxes, my big reason for wanting a 6-speed is that most of the 5-speeds in the e36/e46 generation have a 1.1 5th gear ratio. I intend for this to be a nice fun canyon carver/daily driver/commuter, thus I don't want to be spinning 3k+ rpms at 65mph (103kph). Currently I have a 3.45 lsd in my e21, although I do plan to swap in a e28 rear sub when I can find one. That way I'll get more diff ratios, rear disks, and 5 bolt rims, for which I already have a set of staggered style 68 to go on it. I'll need to do more manual gearbox research to determine the best way forward. Either way, it's going to be: an easter egg hunt for compatible driveshaft bits, or a fab exercise building a Frankenshaft. Cheers

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        • bimmeup02
          Noobie
          • Mar 2026
          • 3

          #5
          Originally posted by DesertBMW
          You don't need manual 6 speed transmission to work with M52TUB, any manual transmission that is easy to find like 5 speed Getrag 250 will work fine with that engine, any manual that fits M50 will fit that engine also. Then what is the point of trying to make that auto to go into sport mode, it doesn't make it faster. If everything runs fine like it is, then try to shorten and resolder each wire one by one., to sort out the wiring mess.
          Thanks for the insight. As for the Sport mode reference, it was because before I did whatever it is that disturbed the wiring and made Sport stop working, I could at least control at what rpm gear shifts happen at. Currently with Sport inop the slushbox is in full auto, and since it has no frame of speed reference, it shifts through all 5 gears by the time I hit 30 mph (50 kph) and has no idea how to downshift except for whatever the ecu tells it as far as tps, rpm, and map, and probably a whole bunch more as I come to a stop. As for 5-speed boxes, I'll need to do more research as to what to get. I know that there's a 260 variant that has an overdrive 5th, but I don't know that there is an overdrive in the 250 box range, however, I will definitely have a look since those appear to be a bit more plentiful. At any rate, if you have knowledge of model numbers and/or car models to look for, I would greatly appreciate it. I really loath automatic transmissions and was gonna just suck it up and drive it until I acquired all the bits to do the manual swap, but it looks like that will need to get moved to the front of the line. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Cheers

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          • TobyB
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2011
            • 5251

            #6
            Aha. duh, I didn't think about the gearbox issue.
            Small case diffs don't go below the 3.38 of the 2002 turbo, as far as I've found.
            So the overdrive's essential, innit?
            The 2002 squad has a couple of options to convert to a 188mm diff, but
            I've never seen anyone make one for the E21. And they're not cheap...

            Is there room in an E21 tunnel for a 6 speed? They're pretty chunky...

            The other easy answer is a 5 speed from an E30, the G260. It has an overdrive 5th.
            And it'll bolt up to any M5x engine, no problems.
            But willit fit? I dunno. We all use the E21's 245 in the 2002 because it's skinny enough.

            t
            now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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