1st gear keeps popping out. NEED HELP

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  • Freude am Fahren
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Aug 2011
    • 1190

    #1

    1st gear keeps popping out. NEED HELP

    Hey folks,

    I own a 91 318i and every other time I put the car in first to get it rolling it moves like a couple feet and then you hear a loud bang and it pops out of first gear into neutral. The car has 90k miles on it. Is my tranny toasted? How hard is it to replace my tranny? any thoughts will help on this.
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  • freeride53
    R3V OG
    • Jul 2007
    • 11972

    #2
    Check the shift linkage, and or shifting bushings. We have the same car. ;)

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    • F34R
      sLaughter
      • May 2009
      • 12390

      #3
      The synchros sound like they are going. Try doing a tranny flush and look for metal in the fluid.
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      • LJ851
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2010
        • 7918

        #4
        It's either
        1) worn linkage (easy to fix) or
        2)bad engagement teeth (replace gearbox)


        Start on 1.

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        Lorin


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        • Freude am Fahren
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Aug 2011
          • 1190

          #5
          Originally posted by LJ851
          It's either
          1) worn linkage (easy to fix) or
          2)bad engagement teeth (replace gearbox)


          Start on 1.

          .
          How do I go about checking my linkage? Is that easy? how do I fix it? Do i need to replace the tranny fluid? if yes, how?
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          • Freude am Fahren
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Aug 2011
            • 1190

            #6
            Originally posted by freeride53
            Check the shift linkage, and or shifting bushings. We have the same car. ;)
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            • LJ851
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2010
              • 7918

              #7
              Get under your car and look for lots of play in the linkage from the bottom of the shifter all the way to the back of the trans. Several bushings in between can fail and cause slop. An assistant at the shift lever shifting gears can highlight problem areas. Or someone that knows what the shifter is supposed to feel like can do it from the drivers seat with their eyes closed and one hand tied behind their back.
              Lorin


              Originally posted by slammin.e28
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              • yert315
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2008
                • 2734

                #8
                here's a rundown for dummies:

                SHIFT LINKAGE:

                -put car in gear
                -jack car up
                -crawl under car
                -the shift linkage is above the driveshaft
                -wiggle the linkage around and look for obviously worn bushings
                -if there is a lot of play, replace your bushings

                TRANNY FLUID:
                similar to changing engine oil

                -there is a drain plug on the bottom of the trans (near the back)
                -have a catch can ready. drain the old fluid
                -screw drain plug back in
                -on the passenger side of the trans there is another screw (filler screw). remove it
                -get a fluid pump with hose attachment (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=940782_0_0_)
                -pump your favorite gear oil in
                -stop when you can feel the oil with your finger (poke your finger in the hole :giggle:)
                -screw fill plug back in


                Do these things first and report back

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                • Ryann
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3350

                  #9
                  Originally posted by F34R
                  The synchros sound like they are going.
                  No.

                  I say shift linkage or layshaft bearing issues.

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                  • Stanley Rockefeller
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 445

                    #10
                    I say new clutch only after the linkage has been checked...worked for me after EVERYONE here said I needed a new tranny too.

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                    • Ryann
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3350

                      #11
                      ^He's having issues STAYING in gear, not getting into gear. Very different.

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                      • LJ851
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7918

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ryann
                        No.

                        I say shift linkage or layshaft bearing issues.
                        ^ yes + worn engagement teeth on syncos/sliders.
                        Lorin


                        Originally posted by slammin.e28
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                        • talltorontoguy
                          Wrencher
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 267

                          #13
                          I had a similar problem in my e34. Swapped fluid with redline mtl and it went away instantly and permanently. Worth a shot.
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                          • Ryann
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3350

                            #14
                            OP: does it feel more difficult to get into first than the other gears? Does the shifter feel vague or spongy when you try to select first?

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                            • Freude am Fahren
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1190

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ryann
                              OP: does it feel more difficult to get into first than the other gears? Does the shifter feel vague or spongy when you try to select first?
                              yes it does sometimes. It feels as though it won't wanna go into first at times. Other gears are butter smooth. I have tried to force it to stay in first but it still pops out and makes a noise as if I were to take a screw driver and run it along the teeth of a cogwheel.
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