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  • Madinthe717
    Advanced Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 172

    #1

    Trans won't pop on

    Ok so I just got my new m20 back together, I go to put the trans back on and it just doesn't want to seem to slide on to the dowels. It gets about 1/4" from it but just stops dead, pilot bearing and clutch are aligned everything is on correctly I don't see why it wouldnt just slide the rest of the way. The splines are all nice and clean. I've never had this problem before usually a little wiggle gets it on complete but I just can't seem to get it! And ideas?
  • scottinAZ
    E30 Fanatic
    • Dec 2009
    • 1312

    #2
    probably a bit of crud on the pilot on the input shaft. Ive had them pop right on, and others that fought like a mother. in the end they all mated up, some just needed persuasion
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    • Madinthe717
      Advanced Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 172

      #3
      im pretty sure its getting to the pilot, its only about 1/4" to mating flush with the block, it will slide on and go just about all the way on and then stop dead and it sounds like it hits something and stops, i just cant figure it out. everything is lined up and clean

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37826

        #4
        Is it in neutral? Did you try to spin the rear output flange while sliding the trans in?

        You may just need to use the bolts to suck it up, tighten in sequence top to bottom, top to bottom, etc.
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        • Madinthe717
          Advanced Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 172

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          Is it in neutral? Did you try to spin the rear output flange while sliding the trans in?

          You may just need to use the bolts to suck it up, tighten in sequence top to bottom, top to bottom, etc.
          ive tried it in gear, in neutral, also spinning the output flange, everything. Im kinda scared to suck it using bolts, dont want to break anything... are you suggesting i use all of the trans bolts , or the 4 main ones that attach to the block.

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          • MR 325
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 37826

            #6
            Originally posted by Madinthe717
            ive tried it in gear, in neutral, also spinning the output flange, everything. Im kinda scared to suck it using bolts, dont want to break anything... are you suggesting i use all of the trans bolts , or the 4 main ones that attach to the block.
            If it's 1/4" it should suck up just fine. The 4 main bolts are all that matter.
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            • LJ851
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2010
              • 7918

              #7
              Originally posted by MR 325
              If it's 1/4" it should suck up just fine. The 4 main bolts are all that matter.
              Sorry, but this is NOT a good idea. In a perfect world, maybe.

              OP, you need to eliminate as many possible sources of interference. If you dont want to measure a lot of things, i would start by removing the clutch and pressure plate and then install the tranny. this will get your options down to the pilot bearing and the locating dowels. Start adding parts til you find it.
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              • Madinthe717
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 172

                #8
                Originally posted by LJ851
                Sorry, but this is NOT a good idea. In a perfect world, maybe.

                OP, you need to eliminate as many possible sources of interference. If you dont want to measure a lot of things, i would start by removing the clutch and pressure plate and then install the tranny. this will get your options down to the pilot bearing and the locating dowels. Start adding parts til you find it.

                good idea ill start with that.

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                • Madinthe717
                  Advanced Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 172

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LJ851
                  Sorry, but this is NOT a good idea. In a perfect world, maybe.

                  OP, you need to eliminate as many possible sources of interference. If you dont want to measure a lot of things, i would start by removing the clutch and pressure plate and then install the tranny. this will get your options down to the pilot bearing and the locating dowels. Start adding parts til you find it.
                  Ok well I pulled the clutch off no difference, pulled the flywheel off and it mates up like it should, how can this be the flywheel doesn't touch the input shaft on the trans at all? I'm lost

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                  • MR 325
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 37826

                    #10
                    I've already given my advice, it's been discredited as if I know nothing.

                    Good luck.
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                    • scottinAZ
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1312

                      #11
                      minor misalignment between pilot bearing and disk. nothing to be alarmed about, put it on, suck it up the 1/4 inch, drive car, profit
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                      • Madinthe717
                        Advanced Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 172

                        #12
                        Originally posted by scottinAZ
                        minor misalignment between pilot bearing and disk. nothing to be alarmed about, put it on, suck it up the 1/4 inch, drive car, profit

                        i believe your correct, before i had to go to work the trans slid on perfect without the pilot bearing... so stupid ive wasted multiple hrs on this.

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