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Track cars running race suspensions and wide DOT-R tires put a lot of strain on the LSD, especially when you're sliding around a bit (4-wheel drifting) to help rotate the car through corners.
Personally, I've never had a problem with 75W-90 in my E30. But diff-builders (such as Dan from Diffsonline) recommend going with the heavier-weight lube to reduce wear in dedicated track cars on R-comps. On my previous E30 running a medium-case 4.10:1 LSD diff, I noticed it ran quieter (less bearing noise) with 140 than regular 90. I figure that's got to be a good thing.sigpic
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Originally posted by slammin.e28 View PostRed Line 75w90 has the LSD additive already in it.Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!
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Originally posted by Emre View PostTrack cars running race suspensions and wide DOT-R tires put a lot of strain on the LSD, especially when you're sliding around a bit (4-wheel drifting) to help rotate the car through corners.
Personally, I've never had a problem with 75W-90 in my E30. But diff-builders (such as Dan from Diffsonline) recommend going with the heavier-weight lube to reduce wear in dedicated track cars on R-comps. On my previous E30 running a medium-case 4.10:1 LSD diff, I noticed it ran quieter (less bearing noise) with 140 than regular 90. I figure that's got to be a good thing.
Hmm...I might be willing to give 75w140 a for my next diff, I like a nice quiet smooth running diff that I know can take beyond the abuse I can toss at it on a whim. Where do you get yours from and how much will it set you back if you don't mind divulging?
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Originally posted by slammin.e28 View PostRed Line 75w90 has the LSD additive already in it.
The garbagejunkyard diffs in 90% of r3v cars need all the grip possible to hold.
I like 75-90 Lubo Moly Gear oil; It is the proper range and very low drag.
High performance racing differentials (not stock 30 year old oem units) often use a very high range fluid;
Os giken specifies a 80-250W fluid for the Super-LOK units; using a LSD additive will ruin them.Last edited by Wanganstyle; 06-13-2013, 04:33 AM.OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25
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Welded open diff. for the race track.
running half oa can of STP (the old mollassas stuff)
the rest is 80w90
if its open, just use any gear oil that is cheap. DO NOT DO THIS IF IT IS A LSD. thats when you spend the money on synthetic.
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I always use lucas lsd stuff
Anyone uses Castrol Syntrax for your LSD's?
My E30 has a 3.73 LSD and I've always used Redline 75W90, however I see a discrepancy on recommendations, since the "proper" weight for a LSD seems to be 75W140, or is it?
Today I noticed a possible leak on the diff so since I have to replace the diff bushing I also want to check for the source of the leak and replace the oil as well.Last edited by cyrmanj; 09-07-2013, 09:50 PM.
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If the fancy name brand oil going into the differential is worth more than the old mystery diff......stop right there.
Differentials are wear items; the bearings often go before the seals- my dd e34 525 had 299k when the pinion bearings died; seals were all still ok.
Lsd additive DECREASES lockup. It the majority of r3v cars with old used stock units this is detrimental to sporting performance.
Your old e30 diff+ the cheapest generic dino oil from wal mart without lsd additive= faster lap time than using redline lsd oil or swepco/amsoil lsd specific oil.
Lsd additive reduces grip of the differential internals for parking lot/oem use in a new 0 mile bmw with a 0 mile oem lsd. Who has one of these now????
The diff does not care if its synthetic or dino oil; 98% of r3v cars don't have the performance level built to take advantage of the diff potential; and cant handle the stress of a built differential either.
Bmw oem differentials are happy with 75-90 gear oil; the only time its temp range can get out of that zone is if the unit is built high locking with different internal confirmations that increase the temp.
The only times something other than 75-90 is needed:
A: Built high lock diff+endurance racing.
B: OS-GIKEN differential (special formula uses 80-250w oil exclusively and a 80-140w option for sprint racing)
75-140w won't hurt anything but the thicker oil will have more rotational drag.
As far as my qualifications for differential specification:
I produce my own original billet cnc LSD; endurance race a 24v e30 myself and build professional differentials for Os Giken sponsored racers & track record holders
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2Last edited by Wanganstyle; 09-08-2013, 05:08 PM.OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25
Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30
Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine
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Originally posted by Wanganstyle View PostIf the fancy name brand oil going into the differential is worth more than the old mystery diff......stop right there.
Differentials are wear items; the bearings often go before the seals- my dd e34 525 had 299k when the pinion bearings died; seals were all still ok.
Lsd additive DECREASES lockup. It the majority of r3v cars with old used stock units this is detrimental to sporting performance.
Your old e30 diff+ the cheapest generic dino oil from wal mart without lsd additive= faster lap time than using redline lsd oil or swepco/amsoil lsd specific oil.
Lsd additive reduces grip of the differential internals for parking lot/oem use in a new 0 mile bmw with a 0 mile oem lsd. Who has one of these now????
The diff does not care if its synthetic or dino oil; 98% of r3v cars don't have the performance level built to take advantage of the diff potential; and cant handle the stress of a built differential either.
Bmw oem differentials are happy with 75-90 gear oil; the only time its temp range can get out of that zone is if the unit is built high locking with different internal confirmations that increase the temp.
The only times something other than 75-90 is needed:
A: Built high lock diff+endurance racing.
B: OS-GIKEN differential (special formula uses 80-250w oil exclusively and a 80-140w option for sprint racing)
75-140w won't hurt anything but the thicker oil will have more rotational drag.
As far as my qualifications for differential specification:
I produce my own original billet cnc LSD; endurance race a 24v e30 myself and build professional differentials for Os Giken sponsored racers & track record holders
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Also i use 75-140 Redline ns fluid (non slip, no additive)
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