Cant Find 1st or 2nd

[Bullhead]

Also do any 5 series cars carry the same trans? Thanks again guys.

[Bullhead]

Here is what I have available to me and idk if the trans are in them or not, they ere closed when I got off work.

93 325i
90 325i
86 325e
84 525?
96 Z3

[Andy.B]

Just caught your post was omw out, so I can only get the tranny from the 90 model then correct?

I'm not sure exactly what years are what. But you need a transmission from another 325e to use your current flywheel/clutch.

Since you're going to have it all apart, you might as well replace the clutch now, so in that case, grab any transmission and the matching flywheel, and then you only have to worry about the output shaft flange, which can be swapped of need be.

[HennaE30]

Cant Find 1st or 2nd

Agreed.




Wrong. In fact, most of what you post on this form is incorrect. I appreciate your enthusiasm to be involved in the community, but when you pipe up, it's the blind leading the blind. Your posts are rarely on topic, even more rarely helpful, and even more rarely factual.

Do you never re visit threads you post in and see what people say in response to you/about you after you post?

A lot of us are amazed you haven't been banned yet. It's been discussed openly.

Are e transmission shift forks stronger than I transmission shift forks? No. Stop perpetuating that myth. It's Jenny McCarthy logic. The shift fork strength has NOTHING to do with the power handling capabilities of a transmission.




There is a saying, that if you come across one asshole a day, they were probably an asshole. But if it seems like everyone you meet is an asshole, it's probably just YOU that's the asshole.

Seriously. Everyone here only sees what they want to see? EVERYONE?

So wait. Not trying to be off topic but now I'm confused, are the e forks weaker? Or the same strength as the I's? I've heard weaker, stronger, and the same, and it really confused the crap out of me.

I agree with you, he gives very vague "guidance" and busts your balls about everything. General thread cluttering.

And on topic, iirc if you get a single mass you can use the shorter trans bell housings.. I think that's what I did for my trans. Could be wrong. Andy can you confirm/deny this?

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[Andy.B]

So wait. Not trying to be off topic but now I'm confused, are the e forks weaker? Or the same strength as the I's? I've heard weaker, stronger, and the same, and it really confused the crap out of me.

I agree with you, he gives very vague "guidance" and busts your balls about everything. General thread cluttering.

And on topic, iirc if you get a single mass you can use the shorter trans bell housings.. I think that's what I did for my trans. Could be wrong. Andy can you confirm/deny this?

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I simply cannot imagine that there is any internal difference between the transmissions. It honestly would make no sense.

Regarding the flywheel/bellhousing choices, the tldr version is:

Dual mass flywheel = deep bellhousing
Single mass flywheel = shallow bellhousing

OR

Single mass flywheel + thicker euro throw out bearing = deep bellhousing

[HennaE30]

I simply cannot imagine that there is any internal difference between the transmissions. It honestly would make no sense.

Regarding the flywheel/bellhousing choices, the tldr version is:

Dual mass flywheel = deep bellhousing
Single mass flywheel = shallow bellhousing

Ok thanks for clearing up the confusion..

And yea that's what I remember. OP, I'd grab the 90 (assuming it shifts smooth and all) and throw a single mass and a new clutch, and probably a new master/slave.. And just be done with it. That way you know your set there.


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[Bullhead]

I would tend to agree, I have not had a Getrag apart but I have had Saginaw's and Muncie's apart and the shift forks are not any beefier between models. The "beef" if there, would come in the form of Billet steel gears, which would normally be a chrome moly type which would be stronger and lighter but more expensive. They never want to throw heavier parts into a tranny simply because it would take more hp to push the car in relativity.

[Bullhead]

Ok thanks for clearing up the confusion..

And yea that's what I remember. OP, I'd grab the 90 (assuming it shifts smooth and all) and throw a single mass and a new clutch, and probably a new master/slave.. And just be done with it. That way you know your set there.


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Just put in anew master and slave, and I would have to wait next week or maybe 2 if I have to do the clutch ( it makes perfect sense to do so now) because $ Is just so tight right now. I have a huge house (3500 sq feet, not fancy big ole farm house) and our electric bills in the winter are nuts so I have to be ready for that. Plus I'm limited on income lol, but who ain't these days lol.

[Bullhead]

I was just told that the later model 87's were "super" eta cars and they shared the shallow bell housing. One way I could check is if the transmission has the 2 sensors on the tranny it is an older style if it has the bosses but no sensors it is the newer style, argg I am so confused. Good news the guibo looks really good lol, and I figured out I don't have to drop the drive shaft in the rear just unbolt the guibo and drop the center sections. All I got left is the bell housing :) I wish these were like some of the older Muncie's where you could leave the bell housing in and just drop the 4 big bolts and the tranny would drop by itself and the clutch and bell housing stayed put.

[Bullhead]

I just want to thank you all too for helping me out, I am a decent mechanic but I always gather as many facts as possible to keep from breaking stuff, a little experience goes a long way lol. I want to say thx to Liquidity as well, without you we wouldn't have anyone to fuss at lmbo.

[Bullhead]

I have just come upon the stupidest thing in the world I have ever seen! I never curse hardly but wtf Batman there are nuts on the back of the starter it isn't threaded. Someone chime in and tell me the trick because the easy way looks to drop the manifold from the engine but I can barely see the bolt and I might be able to get a swivel socket back there but how the heck would I get it back on?

[Poorboyz]

Either remove intake manifold or undo drive shaft, trans support brace and then you will be able to BARELY touch the nut to remove and install.

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[Bullhead]

Either remove intake manifold or undo drive shaft, trans support brace and then you will be able to BARELY touch the nut to remove and install.

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I'm going for option 2 cause I'm a cheap sob and don't want to have to buy gaskets lol. Ima send you a pm Poorboy

[Andy.B]

The only sure for way to determine the transmission that I know of is to measure the bellhousing depth. Unfortunately, in spite of trying, I have not found any specific part numbers or manufacture date that determine which is which.

And regarding the starter bolts.... Yeah.... They are not fun. I believe the one odd one is torx or Allen... I don't recall which.

[Bullhead]

Right on, well I'm done tonight, or this morning. I have got everything lose but the top 3 trans bolts and for the life of me I can't get the driveshaft out. I have removed all the bolts from the guibo, all cross member bolts are out I even took lose the rear diff to driveshaft mounts but it seems the trans output shaft is too long for it to drop. I saw a threaded part at the driveshaft split but idk, prob some little trick idk about. Good news is the guibo is in great shape it looks new and the car is really solid I did find some rust on the drivers side rear floor board around the weep hole area but other than that the factory undercoating is still good everywhere. This thing has wooped my butt idk how ima pull one at pull a part if I can't even get mine out. The neck and back surgery and 2 plates I have holding my spine together doesn't help lol.