Are all G260s the same?

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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #1

    Are all G260s the same?

    One isn't better from a particular model/year or is it?

    Thanks.
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  • rThor432
    No R3VLimiter
    • Feb 2007
    • 3907

    #2
    Yes, there was a 6 month (or so) production period where the G260 in the eta had a big guibo (ie. 5/6/M3). I think it was 96mm as opposed to 78mm. Bolt spacing is different. Something like 9/86-4/87 production iirc.

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    • NC325iC
      R3V OG
      • Mar 2004
      • 6565

      #3
      thats the only difference afaik, just need to switch out the output flange
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      • brandon11130
        Mod Crazy
        • Jan 2008
        • 635

        #4
        Originally posted by NC325iC
        thats the only difference afaik, just need to switch out the output flange
        you also need to buy a thin walled 32 millimeter deep socket. if you dont allready have one.... i didnt so i just grabed another 260 at the junkyard for 35 bucks...

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        • JGood
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2004
          • 7959

          #5
          What about the b25 vs. b27 bellhousing length difference...

          And late models not having the early shift console mounting holes threaded.

          And I think early models may not have had the late shifter mounting ears?

          The b25 trans not having b27 flywheel sensor holes...
          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
          e30 restoration and V8 swap
          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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          • el bob
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2006
            • 348

            #6
            Originally posted by brandon11130
            you also need to buy a thin walled 32 millimeter deep socket. if you dont allready have one.... i didnt so i just grabed another 260 at the junkyard for 35 bucks...
            Holy smokes, $35 bucks? I thought trans' went for way more than that. Any chance you could hook a brotha up? :)

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            • e30Shooter
              Noobie
              • Aug 2008
              • 7

              #7
              Please specify differences

              My syncro's are shot in my 86 325es. I'm picking up a used tranny and wondering if I can swap, with minimal complication, any 260g? I can reuse parts (except syncro's obviously) from my current tranny.

              thanks for any input!

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              • brandon11130
                Mod Crazy
                • Jan 2008
                • 635

                #8
                Originally posted by el bob
                Holy smokes, $35 bucks? I thought trans' went for way more than that. Any chance you could hook a brotha up? :)
                lol harrys u pull it, they have weekly specials, transmissions were on special for $35. They are normally a whopping $60 bucks!

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                • Mike
                  E30 Modder
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 932

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JGood
                  What about the b25 vs. b27 bellhousing length difference...

                  And late models not having the early shift console mounting holes threaded.

                  And I think early models may not have had the late shifter mounting ears?

                  The b25 trans not having b27 flywheel sensor holes...
                  I had no idea about the bellhousings being different, I did however know the flywheel sensor holes for eta's were different....
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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    My 260 has a flux capacitor.

                    Closing SOON!
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                    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #11
                      I'm pretty sure they are different, but it's no big deal. I'm using a full eta trans/clutch setup on my m50 swap car, and it works fine. As long as you keep the trans, clutch disk, pressure plate, flywheel, TOB, and slave cylinder together from the same car, it will work on any m20 and m/s5x AFAIK.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • 2002maniac
                        R3V Elite
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 4260

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JGood
                        What about the b25 vs. b27 bellhousing length difference...
                        We used a G260 from a 86 325e in my brothers 89 325i with a b25 clutch and flywheel with no problems.

                        He's now running the same setup behind an M50.

                        I think the length difference isn't a big deal.

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                        • Jean
                          Moderator
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 18228

                          #13
                          From a poster on mye28 forum -

                          "260/5 was used in the 533 cars ('83-'84 MY)
                          265 was used in the '85 535i - and some very early '86 cars I've seen.
                          260/6 was used '86 on.

                          The way I've heard it explained is that the 260/5 was developed for the E28, but ended up being weak, so BMW used the 265 for 1985 (just as they did in the '80, '81 E12) while Getrag developed the 260/6.

                          It's pretty easy to tell which tranny is which. If the bellhousing is a separate piece, it's a 265. If it has the waffle pattern underneath and has integrated bellhousing, it's a 260/5. The 260/6 has the fins and an integrated bellhousing"


                          "Well, I was a bit harsh in calling the 260/5 "crap." Essentially I wanted to show that it was the least-desirable of the 3. In my experience, they're more prone to input shaft rattling, bad synchros and you have fewer clutch choices (one, if I'm not mistaken) - and you cannot use an M5 pressure plate since it won't fit in the bellhousing.

                          The 265 is a 262 with a 3rd section housing 5th gear. I'm sure it's a fine transmission - for a 4-speed, but I wouldn't use it in a project.

                          As for the 2 variations of the 265, there was indeed a 265CR (dogleg) and a 265 OD, and even a 3rd that was used in the E30 M3. It is essentially a 265CR with the OD shift pattern. The main difference in these aside from the shift-pattern is that the CR has a 1:1 ratio for 5th gear (which is the same as 4th in an overdrive transmission which has a ratio around .81 or so for 5th). So, if you want to know what it's like to drive around with a dogleg box without going to a taller diff, don't shift to 5th.
                          "
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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2002maniac
                            We used a G260 from a 86 325e in my brothers 89 325i with a b25 clutch and flywheel with no problems.

                            He's now running the same setup behind an M50.

                            I think the length difference isn't a big deal.
                            Hmmm... I wonder if it's only certain years wth different bellhousings? I think they changed the casing somewhere in the ~84/85 model year to include tabs to mount the late style shifter setup, and then again in ~86/87 they didn't bother threading the holes for the early style shifter.
                            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                            e30 restoration and V8 swap
                            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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