V8 swap thread

[zav3n]

how bout a 4bt swap or a cummins 24v 6cyl?

[416stroker]

Cummins swap would be the shit. But it would destroy the poor e30 it went in.

[hugh jass]

you know how much a cummins 24v weighs? you can feel the weight in a 1 ton truck.

[416stroker]

Everyone does what he / she wants but i see no reason swapping an ancient engine in your car. Even though it's cheap and you can buy all kind of parts for it (which only take it up to 80hp/l where many proper engines are when leaving the factory).

If you want to go fast, swap M50 turbo. If you want good economy, swap M52. And if you really want those antique pushrods, pay ridicilous 150$ for a book and swap the engine in..

Cammed ls1 > turbo m52

[416stroker]

you know how much a cummins 24v weighs? you can feel the weight in a 1 ton truck.

Yes I know all about the cummins. That's why I said id feel sorry for the e30 it went in. The car wouldn't be able to handle it at all.

[zav3n]

i know huh a cummin would eat an e30 imagine the guibo LOL.. thats why i think a 4bt is more reasonable

[Jonsku]

LOL. I'll concede your point about the 5.0, but LSx? Compared to a "modern" (20 year old) M50???? Yeah right.
I expect next your going to tell me that C6's use antique suspension technology compared to your trailing arm/mac strut e30?
:D
Nathan

Yes, compared to M50-M52-M54 those LSx pushrods are ancient. Variable valve timing, variable intake manifold length etc are things that USA:s car industry seems not to know about.

And Cummins diesels, well, how would i put this. They're heavy, unefficient and make way too much NOx.

Sorry, but only thing that is good on american engines (or cars) is the cheapness. Absolutely nothing else.

[tjts1]

M62 makes a fine boat anchor. Pushrods ftmfw

Yes, compared to M50-M52-M54 those LSx pushrods are ancient. Variable valve timing, variable intake manifold length etc are things that USA:s car industry seems not to know about.

[416stroker]

Yes, compared to M50-M52-M54 those LSx pushrods are ancient. Variable valve timing, variable intake manifold length etc are things that USA:s car industry seems not to know about.

And Cummins diesels, well, how would i put this. They're heavy, unefficient and make way too much NOx.

Sorry, but only thing that is good on american engines (or cars) is the cheapness. Absolutely nothing else.

OK what ever:loco:

[Jonsku]

Yes, sorry that this topic is going pretty much to other things but one more question; what is the benefit of swapping american V8 instead of european /japanese V8, if costs are disregarded?

[rThor432]

I have a friend with a 4.4l M62 in his E30. It isnt any faster than my S52 car. For all of the extra effort (fabrication etc.) there's no way I would put an M60/62 in one of my cars. I'm a BMW tech and I'd still lean towards the Chevy motor if I wanted a V8.

[Jean]

Yes, sorry that this topic is going pretty much to other things but one more question; what is the benefit of swapping american V8 instead of european /japanese V8, if costs are disregarded?

Compact, simple and you can even say light v8 with lots of power/torque and lots more still available. It just works, as proven by their use in C5/C6 vettes, and those are plenty fast, and even get great mpg in top gear.

[DSP74]

Yes, compared to M50-M52-M54 those LSx pushrods are ancient. Variable valve timing, variable intake manifold length etc are things that USA:s car industry seems not to know about.

And Cummins diesels, well, how would i put this. They're heavy, unefficient and make way too much NOx.

Sorry, but only thing that is good on american engines (or cars) is the cheapness. Absolutely nothing else.

The Cummins engines are one of the more efficient engines made.

What the heck are you talking about?!?

But anyway that's a dumb swap.

While I prefer the BMW V8 swap, the LS1 is a better engine. The end. (I would just rather keep it all BMW)

[funcrew]

Everyone does what he / she wants but i see no reason swapping an ancient engine in your car. Even though it's cheap and you can buy all kind of parts for it (which only take it up to 80hp/l where many proper engines are when leaving the factory).

If you want to go fast, swap M50 turbo. If you want good economy, swap M52. And if you really want those antique pushrods, pay ridicilous 150$ for a book and swap the engine in..

Why the hating on pushrods? That technology results in a compact, simple engine with a fantastic power-to-weight ratio, great reliability, much fewer parts, and easier modding (for example 1 cam instead of 4 (DOHC vee). I daily drive an S52 E30 - it's still not enough displacement, and I would gladly swap in an LSx engine if I had the money and could pay someone else to turn-key it for me.

[slow e30]

dont be gay.

keep the 5.0s and ls1 in the cars they came in.

your mom should have kept you in egg form.

this thread has a bunch of BS going back and forth. how many LS1 e30's are they? hey, about an LS6, or an LS7? your talking about 500+ HP 400+ TQ stock. imagine a supercharger, which WILL fit. your options are endless.

so unless you have driven a LS1 powered e30, or turbo m5x/s5x or anything better, keep your mouth shut.