M60 Swap thread

[E30SPDFRK]

Figure I can help out now since most of you are past the dreaming stages and into the actual work part.


I bought my mounts on Ebay.de for around $170 I believe, they're the same exact one as the 300mm.de mounts and worked perfect.

e32 and e34 manifolds will not fit. Period. I have about 6 hours into mine modifying them to fit. Pretty much the only part that can be saved is the flanges, and I had to modify 2 of those as well.

The V8 booster setup is a pain in the ass to get to fit, it clutters up the engine bay and your brakes will still be hard once you finish since the MC is so much bigger. I'm currently in the design phase of making a different option along the same lines as the Massive booster delete kit, but moved to the left about 4"

Word to the wise: modify the coolant pipe on the back of the motor before you install it! I spent a good weekend of work trying to block off 2 of the holes and making lines to mate the other two to the heater core.

As for a supercharger, it is possible to fit without engine bay modification but you would need to make your own bracket. Not sure if any kits would fit directly.


There may be delays in the supercharger updates though, as I found a bigger engine that I want to swap in first :)



I'll try to answer any other questions too.

[bmwmech1]

Really? for it to be direct swap into a e36? That would be amazing.

No silly... I thought the wifey's 318 was an E30, but now I remember that we had this conversation before, haha...

Garey

[White325is]

Really? for it to be direct swap into a e36? That would be amazing.

[bmwmech1]

I need a damn oil pan to put one of these in the wife 318ti. :)

I need to look in storage and see if I have an extra pan for an M60, Mike... I might...

Garey

[bmwmech1]

Bruce, I don't believe e32/e34 manifolds will clear like the X5 stuff. Possibly you can make e39 stuf work though...

Yes Jean, the E39's will work as well... that's what I have and have mocked them up with the mounts and column in place and no issues. BTW, the mounts showed up yesterday... thanks!

Garey

[White325is]

I need a damn oil pan to put one of these in the wife 318ti. :)

[Jean]

Well...in the interest of getting this car on-track, I think modified stock manifolds will be the version 1 exhaust. Is there a material difference between the X5 and 540i manifolds? Can I use any of the e34/e32 manifolds that I have in-hand?

I'm intrigued by the Wilwood pedal setup. Which exact pedals are you using, and how are you integrating them into the (non) structure of the car? After a couple of iterations, I'm pretty satisfied with the rigidity of our setup, and it retains the stock brake pedal. However, I'm always interested in a better mouse-trap.

-Bruce

Bruce, I don't believe e32/e34 manifolds will clear like the X5 stuff. Possibly you can make e39 stuf work though...

[bmwmech1]

Well...in the interest of getting this car on-track, I think modified stock manifolds will be the version 1 exhaust. Is there a material difference between the X5 and 540i manifolds? Can I use any of the e34/e32 manifolds that I have in-hand?

I'm intrigued by the Wilwood pedal setup. Which exact pedals are you using, and how are you integrating them into the (non) structure of the car? After a couple of iterations, I'm pretty satisfied with the rigidity of our setup, and it retains the stock brake pedal. However, I'm always interested in a better mouse-trap.

-Bruce

Bruce, I don't know about any materials differences in the manifolds, I can only speak to the E39 versions... they are double wall like the E32/E34 versions, but the drivers side is 4 into 1, which will clear the column. The passenger side is 4-2-1. The E32/E34 manifolds are split pairs and neither of those bodies used a rack/pinion, so there was no column interference issues. I believe the E39 versions are easier to come by, but can't hurt to search for both and see what turns up...

The pedal assembly is Wilwood's new adjustable pedal pad version, #340-11299. I don't know if you're aware, but my build has a full cage, so it's being tied into the dash bar, beneath/inside the dash. I'll use the remote reservoirs, mounted under the hood. Should be pretty painless and like I said, the adjustability should make it worthwhile. I'm still in the process of finishing the cage, so I don't have any pics of it installed yet, but I do have a pic of what inspired me to do it...



That's the V10 E30 M3 Piper Motorsports built a few years ago... same idea, different pedal assembly...

Garey

[BruceBe]

Yup, those are what I have already... those and the 4.4L X5 ones are the only OEM ones that will work. Paid way less than that for mine, though. I want to see what Bruce has fabbed up...

Garey

Well...in the interest of getting this car on-track, I think modified stock manifolds will be the version 1 exhaust. Is there a material difference between the X5 and 540i manifolds? Can I use any of the e34/e32 manifolds that I have in-hand?

I'm intrigued by the Wilwood pedal setup. Which exact pedals are you using, and how are you integrating them into the (non) structure of the car? After a couple of iterations, I'm pretty satisfied with the rigidity of our setup, and it retains the stock brake pedal. However, I'm always interested in a better mouse-trap.

-Bruce

[bmwmech1]

Just came across these on ebay, good headers to start with on a swap, no affiliation

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...Q5fAccessories

Yup, those are what I have already... those and the 4.4L X5 ones are the only OEM ones that will work. Paid way less than that for mine, though. I want to see what Bruce has fabbed up...

Garey

[bmwmech1]

There's a lot of stuff we're doing that won't work on a street application. For example, a cockpit-mounted dual master cylinder w/balance bar. Picture attached.

-Bruce

Well, I guess my build is a hybrid then, because I'm using the new Wilwood cantilevered triple MC setup in mine and it won't see track time, Lol! I decided on this pedal setup a long time ago to get the brake system out of the engine bay and be able to control the bias a little better, too. With the V8 being so wide, this setup just made more sense to me. I don't dislike the remotely mounted booster/MC setup I had started with originally, I just think the Wilwood setup will look cleaner under the hood and function far better and be way more adjustable...

Garey

[BruceBe]

I respect that approach, Bruce. I'm not in any hurry, since the car is still in pieces anyway. Fingers crossed it works as you expect and we can benefit from your experiments. Post more pics, please, Lol! Unless you don't want to give away anything , since it is a track car...

Garey

Garey

There's a lot of stuff we're doing that won't work on a street application. For example, a cockpit-mounted dual master cylinder w/balance bar. Picture attached.

-Bruce

[BimmerScreamer]

Just came across these on ebay, good headers to start with on a swap, no affiliation

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-bmw-540i-exhaust-manifolds-catalytic-converter-v8-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem415788b963QQitemZ280641452387QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[mkcman17]

It's like a 500hp game of tetris.

[LowR3V'in]

8mpg? :P