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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #31
    ^ convert it to obd1.
    Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



    OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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    • naika
      E30 Addict
      • Jul 2007
      • 466

      #32
      Originally posted by Jean
      ^ convert it to obd1.
      Thanks, sorry to thread jack again.
      Would that mean installing all the M60 harness, sensors, ECU?
      344is! Obd1 conversion

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      • Jean
        Moderator
        • Aug 2006
        • 18228

        #33
        Yep
        Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



        OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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        • naika
          E30 Addict
          • Jul 2007
          • 466

          #34
          THanks!
          I'm looking into doing that, trying to figure out all the problems I'll run into
          So far, seems like the cranck sensor needs placed on the front pulley and replacement of the thermostat and water pump.

          Good luck with your build, Il'l keep my eye on the progress
          344is! Obd1 conversion

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          • naika
            E30 Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 466

            #35
            THanks!
            I'm looking into doing that, trying to figure out all the problems I'll run into
            So far, seems like the cranck sensor needs placed on the front pulley and replacement of the thermostat and water pump.

            Good luck with your build, Il'l keep my eye on the progress
            344is! Obd1 conversion

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            • sacbmwdriver
              E30 Addict
              • Aug 2009
              • 422

              #36
              do you plan on BAR'ing your car? also do you think that instead of making some engine mounts would these mounts be better? http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/tran...p5%2ftyp5.html

              Oh yeah and im from Sacramento also what area do you stay? ill be looking forward to seeing this car on the road!

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              • Jean
                Moderator
                • Aug 2006
                • 18228

                #37
                Yeah, I'll have to BAR it again... since I've gone through the process already it's not that bad.

                I've seen those mounts as well, might be able to get something locally first otherwise I'll look more into those..
                Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                • e30polak
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 6136

                  #38
                  Nice Jean! I would've chosen an OBD1 M62b44 personally, but the m60 will be MUCH more fun then your m30! :D
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                  • george graves
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 19986

                    #39
                    I support this thread.
                    Originally posted by Matt-B
                    hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                    • Jean
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 18228

                      #40
                      Originally posted by e30polak
                      Nice Jean! I would've chosen an OBD1 M62b44 personally, but the m60 will be MUCH more fun then your m30! :D
                      Me too, but obd1 m62s do not exist lol. It appears that converting m62 to m60 PROPERLY w/o a hack job is proven to be more difficult.

                      from moroza on bfc - "you can swap M60 timing covers and gear if you do one of the following bits of custom fabrication: spacers for M60 cams to fit onto M62 heads, or M62-bore headgaskets to mount M60B40 heads onto the M62 block. Otherwise, no."

                      full thread here - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...919713&page=12
                      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                      • e30polak
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 6136

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Jean
                        Me too, but obd1 m62s do not exist lol. It appears that converting m62 to m60 PROPERLY w/o a hack job is proven to be more difficult.

                        from moroza on bfc - "you can swap M60 timing covers and gear if you do one of the following bits of custom fabrication: spacers for M60 cams to fit onto M62 heads, or M62-bore headgaskets to mount M60B40 heads onto the M62 block. Otherwise, no."

                        full thread here - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...919713&page=12
                        I was thinking just using the intake manifold, lol. :p
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                        • george graves
                          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 19986

                          #42
                          So - I'm confused. You want the m62 for the displacement, but the m60 for the obd1 non-vanos head, right?
                          Originally posted by Matt-B
                          hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                          • CorvallisBMW
                            Long Schlong Longhammer
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 13039

                            #43
                            Why not just bore out the m60 and throw in m62 crank/rods/pistons? No head swapping or obd1 conversion junk to deal with.

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                            • e30polak
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 6136

                              #44
                              Originally posted by george graves
                              So - I'm confused. You want the m62 for the displacement, but the m60 for the obd1 non-vanos head, right?
                              I mean to leave it OBD2 and put an OBD1 intake manifold on it. They flow better, much like the 24v engines.

                              Vanos > Non-Vanos any day.
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                              • Jean
                                Moderator
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 18228

                                #45
                                Well, I don't know if vanos is worth the trouble on the m62.. When I was troubleshooting it on the e39 and disconnected it, car felt just as quick in the mid to high rpm range and was only slightly noticable in the low rpm range. So, to me non vanos v8 is fine.

                                George - yep, some dyno as much as 270whp... I haven't looked at what options are out there yet in terms of bigger pistons etc. I really don't want to drop 5k into the motor or anything like that, just a nice clean re-fresh/reseal and call it good you know.
                                Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                                OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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