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  • Jb325is
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2003
    • 2136

    #16
    Yeah, I think the 530i 5 speed is the way to go. 6 speeds are pretty hard to find for less than a grand, although it was nice getting 30mpg on the highway with the 2.93 in my 540i. As for flywheel options, I've driven an e34 6 speed with a JB racing flywheel and it was fantastic, such a huge upgrade over the 32 lb dual mass (I think the jbr was 11lb)

    I really want to avoid subframe spacers, but the only swaps I've seen so far required them. Are there any mounts available for purchase at this point? I've never looked into making engine mounts but it can't be too terribly difficult.
    - '88 m54 coupe

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    • Jean
      Moderator
      • Aug 2006
      • 18228

      #17
      Check out Garey's build - http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96824 . I asked him about his mounts, here is what he told me "2. When I made the mounts, I mocked up the motor with 3/4" clearance between the pan and subframe, I have made 3/4" aluminum spacers for the subframe to unibody to gain a little extra clearance and get the motor to sit level. It clears everything without the spacers, but I wanted the extra clearance."

      Here is a build on bfc (although I really don't like his way of mounting the engine) - http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1366630 good for some nice booster relocation pics.

      And also gregslow318i on this forum got m60 in his car as well
      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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      • Jonsku
        E30 Addict
        • Oct 2004
        • 566

        #18
        More and more V8 swaps, that's cool! :)

        Originally posted by Jb325is
        I really want to avoid subframe spacers, but the only swaps I've seen so far required them. Are there any mounts available for purchase at this point? I've never looked into making engine mounts but it can't be too terribly difficult.
        If you gonna drive the car hard you should not put subframe spacers in there. The engine sits in the bay nicely without the spacers, but crossbar or E32 / E34 coolant reservoir won't fit in there. Also the gearbox tunnel has to be modified / raised a bit if using the 6-speed tranny in order to get the engine package horizontal.
        - E34 M5 (x 2) -
        - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
        - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

        +
        - E46 318i Touring -
        - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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        • E30SPDFRK
          Moderator
          • Jul 2007
          • 5686

          #19
          Yeah, the spacers aren't needed. The drivetrain angle does get thrown off without them though and you get a semi-annoying vibration from the guibo being pinched. I don't even notice it anymore, but whenever someone else rides in the car they mention it.
          Byron
          Leichtbau

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          • Jean
            Moderator
            • Aug 2006
            • 18228

            #20
            ^ not good. Will have to look into that more.
            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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            • CorvallisBMW
              Long Schlong Longhammer
              • Feb 2005
              • 13039

              #21
              sub'd. eagerly awaiting more :)

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              • Stephen
                Шлем ишака
                • Aug 2008
                • 10774

                #22
                Odd question.. but hows the oilpan clearance for this swap?

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                • Jonsku
                  E30 Addict
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 566

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jean
                  ^ not good. Will have to look into that more.
                  There's enough space in the gearbox tunnel to raise it a bit in order to get the engine package horizontal without the spacers. Two of my friends did it and it's no big deal.

                  The coolant reservoir and strut bar (?) do not fit, though.

                  Originally posted by Stephen
                  Odd question.. but hows the oilpan clearance for this swap?
                  Much better than with M50 / M30 swaps. The oilpan is about at the same height as the front subframe and steering rack.

                  The biggest ground clearance problem is the left hand side exhaust pipe.

                  - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                  - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                  - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                  +
                  - E46 318i Touring -
                  - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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                  • Stephen
                    Шлем ишака
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 10774

                    #24
                    Motherfucker. Better than an m30?

                    I was hoping youd say terrible, so i could shrug it off and not lust after this swap.

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                    • Jean
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 18228

                      #25
                      Lol, yeah oil pan is least of concerns with this swap :)

                      Jonsku - not worried about the coolant tank or strut bar. There is enough room to make the engine/tranny/driveshaft sit perfectly straight if using 5 speed or 6 speed tranny or both?

                      Since I autocross/hpde this car I don't want to mess with lowering the subframe at this time if at all possible. So, no spacers = good.
                      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                      • Stephen
                        Шлем ишака
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 10774

                        #26
                        i'll be watching this. Doubt i will ever undertake it, but i will watch.

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                        • gregslow318i
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1918

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stephen
                          i'll be watching this. Doubt i will ever undertake it, but i will watch.
                          its not that bad...Ill give you a ride in it sometime ask Clayton about it
                          looking for a e30m50 swap harness adapter pm me $150 shipped
                          email nitroman12@gmail.com

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                          • White325is
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5947

                            #28
                            Im looking to do this swap in the wifes 318ti. got everything in line but an oil pan. Them things are a bitch to find an alpina pan.

                            oh, found this..
                            As a supplementary to the translation, below you will find various topics covered by RTSAUTO: https://www.rtsauto.com/m60-swap-eliminating-ews-for-404-ecudme/ - Eliminating EWS https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-boosterless-brake-bracket-booster-delete-manual-brakes-for-swap-cars/ - Boosterless Brakes (manual brakes) https://www.rtsauto.com/manualbrake/ - Manual brake calculations https://www.rtsauto.com/wiring-harness-adapter-guide-for-e30-m60-and-obd-1-m62-swap-pinout-and-a-cheap-way-of-getting-x20-and-c101-connectors/ - Wiring harness adapter https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-m60-m62-v8-engine-mounts/ - Engine mounts https://www.rtsauto.com/radiator-and-cooling-for-m60-m62-v8-e30-swap/ - Radiator and Cooling https://www.rtsauto.com/mounting-an-m60-m62-without-subframe-spacers-and-without-drivetrain-angle/ - Mounting an M60 / M62 V8 Into an e30
                            Last edited by White325is; 10-13-2010, 07:21 PM.

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                            • Stephen
                              Шлем ишака
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 10774

                              #29
                              Originally posted by gregslow318i
                              its not that bad...Ill give you a ride in it sometime ask Clayton about it

                              I forgot you had done one. Well i'm too poor for it at least for now. :p

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                              • naika
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 466

                                #30
                                Subscribed!
                                Thanks white325is for the link ;)

                                I just decided to go through the swap, and I'm getting delievery of my M62B44 saturday morning.
                                One question I have for you if you don't mind. Is it possible to delete the EWS from an M62? I don't have it and I'm trying to figure out how to bypass that problem.

                                Thanks, and good luck i'll be watching progress
                                344is! Obd1 conversion

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