5-speed Flywheel/Clutch options
For those going with the 530i 5-speed (ZF), here is the flywheel/clutch assembly that will work, as in bolt-it-on:
Flywheel: JB Racing E39 540i flywheel
Clutch: E36 328 Clutchmasters Organic Stage 1 kit
Slave cylinder: 530i
Basically, there are three models of BMW that used this clutch kit - e36 328i (all body styles), E39 528i Sedan, and Z3 2.8 Roadster. The OEM clutch kit is part #21211223602, but again, we used the Clutchmasters upgrade for the application. Given the torque differences between the 2.8L six, and 4.0L V8, I would be very hesitant to use a stock clutch kit. We chose a lightweight flywheel, but it is dimensionally identical to a stock flywheel, so the stocker should work (just don't drop it on your foot).
Sachs offers a "Sport" pressure plate (part # 883082 720), adding 18-20% more clamping force, as well as a full "race" clutch kit. Again, this is for the E36 328 or equivalent application
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If anyone else is curious, that part list above minus a few items is at $1300 including the 4 knock sensors. I didn't include new timing chains as I'm fairly certain the old ones should be fine in whatever I end up getting. Timing chain guides and tensioners add up fast.Leave a comment:
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There is some talk of using E36 stuff on bfc as well...I'll post something if it comes up.Leave a comment:
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That's pretty standard, though. I feel it will be worth the money to me, I love the revs and how direct the power is in my current setup, running a 13lb 323i flywheel mated to an S52. Driving feel is very important to me.
Mr. Burns, if you're so inclined, feel free to update the OP as we add more information - we can get it all into ONE spot and make a sticky.Leave a comment:
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^ yeah not many choices for light flywheel w/o spending almost $1k on it lolLeave a comment:
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Right now I'm pricing out maintenance needs - tell me if I'm missing anything
e: It appears Jean has done much of the legwork there
Other miscOriginally posted by Jean
4 knock sensors (12141702163)
Flywheel and clutch
If you're like me you cannot live without a ltw flywheel. There are a few options:
VAC does a 16lb flywheel + an M5 clutch for the 6 speeds for $1499.
UUC offers a 13.5lb flywheel + a performance organic clutch for $1599
http://www.nexternal.com/shared/Stor...S=uuc&All=True
The 280mm clutch + flywheel setup they offer shouldn't be needed with an NA M6X + e30 weight.
http://www.jbracing.com/flywheel-bmw5.php JB racing also offers some 13lb flywheels for $800.
There's an e39 flywheel e36 328 clutch kit combo that apparently works with the 5spds, paging bmwmech1!Last edited by Mr Two; 10-13-2011, 05:04 PM.Leave a comment:
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You could have posted in here - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=185568Leave a comment:
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The semi-Comprehensive M60b40 into E30 swap Q&A
There has been much discusion about this infamous swap.
I, among others on this site are giving this a shot.
Yes, it's been done to nauseum over in the U.K...but less here in North America
Lets start with the basics.
Before you start thinking "hey, I know of a M60b40 engine for cheap" let it be known, that your fancy V8 engine is likely one of the less expensive parts of the project.
take your time, and read this website-->
finished reading that?
move on to this-->
familiarize yourself with this website--> http://www.300mm.de/
specifically the "TYPE 5" section--> http://www.300mm.de/typ5/typ5.html
still gung-ho?
awesome.
I'll focus on *my swap* specifically, which my goal is to have a functioning m60b40 working and road ready in my e30, using the most basic methods. There are MANY variables to this...6spd, obd2, EWS etc etc
I'm cross posting information offered by Garey (bmwmech1) as he seems to to have harnessed this quite well, and has been a wealth of information for my project aswell. Special thanks also goes out to Noid over on Maxbimmer.
Not knocking the 6 cylinder swap as it's straightforward and well documented and there are plenty of bad-ass M/S5x swapped cars running around with a ton more HP than an M6x car will make. That being said, I agree that it's been done and done well, whereas the V8 swaps are not as common, so the "wow" factor is a little higher. I think most of the larger hurdles have been covered, so lets talk about the M6x swap in a little more detail...
Basic Parts collection
1. Transmission- either E34 530i 5 speed or E34, E39 or E39 M5 6 speed. Both require different clutch/flywheels, but either will work, effort varies. Mounts for 5 speed are stock E30, 6 speed has to be made.
2. Motor Mounts- can be bought (300mm.de) or made, I made mine, pretty simple to do.
3. Cooling- E36M3 or Z3M radiator drops in, Z3M is the preference, since it's 3 row.
4. Exhaust- E38, E39 or X5 4.4 manifolds are necessary to start with, the rest has to be custom made... enough said
5. Braking- Easiest to source an E34 V8 brake setup and retrofit.
6. Electrics- 404 DME from an E34 or E32 V8 car, harness can be made for C101 connector pretty easily.
7. Driveshaft- E30 M3, E36 328i, early E36 M3 4 bolt are bolt in for the 5 speed, 6 speed is more work, due to longer length of trans.
Motor Mounts from 300mm.de
ECU/DME
As far as the wiring goes, you need the engine harness and 404 DME from a manual V8 OBDI car, preferably the car the engine came from, if it's OBDI. You need to make a "connector" harness, just like the ones Rogue sells for the M5x swaps, for the C101 connector in the car to the engine harness connector, assuming your car has a C101 connector. Since these E30s and E34s were from the same "era", most of the wiring is similar, as far as what is in each loom, diameters and in some cases, even colors. I makes it simpler, but not plug and play.
ECU/DME con't
The 0 261 200 404 Motronic m3.3 ECU should be used because it lacks EWS, and thus is much less of a headache then other m60 ecu's.
As far as the tachometer is concerned, either a 4 cylinder cluster needs to be used or you can use a 6 cylinder cluster and take the chip/white plug from the front of the cluster of a 4 cylinder cluster and exchange it into the 6 cylinder cluster. Then you need to half the signal from pin 47 from the ECU (anywhere along the wire path to the cluster regardless if using a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder cluster).
Brake Booster relocate
The most challenging part one could argue is the brake booster, I find the easiest way is to just use a brake booster from a e32/e34, and to mount it behind the left headlight (via welding) and extend the push rod.
Exhaust Manifolds/headers
For the exhaust mani./headers part numbers 11627500483 and 11627500484 should be used from an x5. Everything after that, is custom.
Now keep in mind, this is still a very basic guideline as to what to expect.
this is more of a "what to collect" before you start the swap.
Happy hunting!
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