E30 M3 S62 Build - Loads of queries about 4x4 drivtrains

[Turk]

Yes the plan is to use a standard flywheel and clutch, obviously this may change. But seeing as I have a clutch at 2000 miles it seems silly not to try use it.

The plan is to to going the 2 bell housings. I had originally anticipated having a plate to mate the two, though welding would work too.
like this:

[The Dark Side of Will]

You planning to use a stock-type clutch?

I have no way of getting that info about the stock clutch because I don't have one. I intend to use a Tilton dual disk unit.

When I said cut/weld above, I meant the bellhousing. That's far easier/safer than trying to do the input shaft. If you have access to machine tooling, it shouldn't be hard to cut both the V8 and 265 bellhousings off at the correct depth to weld the engine side of the V8 bellhousing to the transmission side of the 265 bellhousing. The ticklish part is making sure that the two patterns stay concentric

[Turk]

"Land Rover used BMW M62's for a few years... They never put a manual transmission with that engine, did they?"

Yes they did. I think it only had auto. Though I haven't been able to locate a bell housing from them. Thus I presume the auto tranny it used was 1 piece rather then the land rover r380 box.

Some measurements I could really use from u guy would be:
- the total height& width of the flywheel and clutch as a whole
- the depth of the spline penetration into the clutch plate
-The travel distance required in order to release the clutch.

Would a welded shaft hold up to the power of a v8? I'd rather have an extension made tbh.

[The Dark Side of Will]

Land Rover used BMW M62's for a few years... They never put a manual transmission with that engine, did they?

(Sorry if that's already been covered in this thread...)

Yes, you'll have to use a hydraulic throw-out bearing with the auto transmission bellhousing... if you can use an adapter plate.

You may have to cut/weld to get the 265 input shaft to reach the pilot bearing in the S62... the 265 bellhousing is shallower than the GM bellhousing, so there may not be enough space for an adapter plate between the auto bellhousing and the manual transmission. If you cut/weld and make one bellhousing out of two, then you will be able to keep the 265's throw out arm without having to use the hydraulic throw out bearing.

[Turk]

oh an as the auto housing doesn't have the mounting point for a slave cylinder with pushrod I think I will have to use one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1607183824...ht_1093wt_1071

There are many kits out there for hydraulic expansion bearings but are around £200. as far as I can tell the above does the exact same job at a fraction of the price. Another bonus could be the shaft diameter. Land rover/bmw etc used zf parts so I'm hoping the slave bearing will be a nice fit. If not I will make up a sleeve to snug things up.

[Turk]

Ordered. It should be here in around 10 days. The Above number has been superseded by 1058 322 016.

So should be receiving the getrag in a couple of weeks too. Can anyone tell me the distance between the edge of the bell (where it mates with the block) to the engine side of the splined shaft?

[The Dark Side of Will]

They are kind of tough to find used, as their only parts value is when the transmission is dead and if the transmission is dead, they are usually scrapped with it.

[Turk]

£159 new... do I? don't I ?

[Turk]

so its 1058322011 I need.

[The Dark Side of Will]

I found this about the 5HP24 tranny:

http://akpp-city.ru/pdf/5HP24.pdf

Shows the bell number as the following. i assume it has various options with slight differences.

1058 322 009
1058 322 011
1058 322 016
1058 322 020

Cross reference the "Where used" column on pg 15 with the "ZF Part #" column on pg 2 in order to build your applications list.

[Turk]

I found this about the 5HP24 tranny:

http://akpp-city.ru/pdf/5HP24.pdf

Shows the bell number as the following. i assume it has various options with slight differences.

1058 322 009
1058 322 011
1058 322 016
1058 322 020

[The Dark Side of Will]

Don't know the part number... I just looked on the locator for a bellhousing for a '98 540i. You'll need the OBDII bellhousing because of the crank sensor low on the right side.

[Turk]

Can anyone supply me with a part number for the Bmw v8 Bellhousing? I have been searching online and realoem and just can't find it.

Cheers
Turk

[Turk]

right I have found a 5 speed american type get rag out of a US M3 (non dogleg) just chatting money with the guy. This begs the question now as to what flywheel and clutch to use? Will the centre shaft reach?

[The Dark Side of Will]

drivetrain components are still rated by torque, not horsepower.

http://boards.bmworg.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2835

Any Idea what the T-case designation for the E34 is?