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  • Darrenr
    Noobie
    • Sep 2012
    • 15

    #1

    M60 Gearbox flanges

    Hi,

    Ive had m60 in my e30 for over a year now and cant seem to get my gearbox flange right im using a 2.5 flange mated to the m60 box, after a while it starts to leak, what do other people use and anyone ever had any leak problems?

    thanks
  • Jonsku
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2004
    • 566

    #2
    What part do you actually mean by "gearbox flange"?

    Alignment problems, maybe?
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    • Darrenr
      Noobie
      • Sep 2012
      • 15

      #3
      i mean the metal flange with the single bolt thats bolts it to shaft on gearbox mine seems to pass oil

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      • bongo78
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 65

        #4
        Thats pretty normal, on all my swaps - M20,M50,M52 I have always replaced the little shaft seal on the transmissions and after a while they all started to leak a little :) . If it is really small leak just ignored, if you haven't changed the seal change it, it will be ok for a while :) . The flange you mention has to be as level as possible to prevent leaks. IMHO

        By "gearbox flange" you mean number 4 in the diagram?



        The leaking starts from number 7 on the gearbox:

        Last edited by bongo78; 10-30-2012, 10:16 PM.

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        • Darrenr
          Noobie
          • Sep 2012
          • 15

          #5
          Ive now changed seal 7-8 but still thought ut may be passing through splines, i keep getting told there wouldnt be enough oil so high up in the box to leak that much?

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          • bongo78
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 65

            #6
            You have done whats needed already :) , the leak should have stopped. If you have changed them correctly no leaking from the splines should occur. That is correct, that high you only get splashes inside the gearbox. As I told you, I have stopped changing the small seal n7, the leak itself is so small it doesn't affect anything, just the visual side of the things :)

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            • JGood
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2004
              • 7959

              #7
              Apparently BMW uses a special grease on the splines that prevents leaking. In addition, apparently it's possible for the output flange to see some wear, right where the seal is, which could also cause leaks.

              I've had terrible luck doing output shaft seals on g260's and zf320's. Which is why I didn't touch my ZF before I put it in my m60 car.


              Here's a thread where some local guys and myself were discussing it:

              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
              e30 restoration and V8 swap
              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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              • Darrenr
                Noobie
                • Sep 2012
                • 15

                #8
                thanks for that info, this is what i thought mine is doing, leaking through the splines i sealed it tonight to see if it works also changed selector seal just to see if that will help

                Its when im on a track its not allowed and track owners aint to happy, So i have to sort it really

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                • Darrenr
                  Noobie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 15

                  #9
                  i put a new output shaft seal in the other day it lasted 2 laps and started leaking again! its 100% leaking out the bottom of the seal and not the splines any had the same problem is there any fixes?

                  thanks

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                  • CoreyZ
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 384

                    #10
                    It sounds like you are talking about the output flange - the flange that connects the transmission output shaft with the driveshaft through the flex disc. Is this correct? You were able to bolt one of the six cylinder flanges to the gearbox? That might be your problem - the outer diameter of the flange where it meets the seal might be too small.

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                    • Darrenr
                      Noobie
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Yea thats the one im on about, the 3 bolt flange that connects to the rubber donut, ive got a 2.5 flange bolted to a 6bolt rubber "donut" i took the flange to the shop and got a slightly smaller seal than the bmw one but still the same external size but still leaks just woundering if anyone has a fix

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                      • Darrenr
                        Noobie
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 15

                        #12
                        ive poped a new seal in and last 2 laps, im using a e30 325 flange and prop.... what does everyone else use?

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                        • Jonsku
                          E30 Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 566

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Darrenr
                          ive poped a new seal in and last 2 laps, im using a e30 325 flange and prop.... what does everyone else use?
                          We use stock gearbox flanges, seem to be pretty sensitive..

                          I propose that you'd put the stock flange back (with new OEM seal) and modify the propshaft. This would give you more durable 'shaft as well.
                          - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                          - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                          - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                          +
                          - E46 318i Touring -
                          - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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