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  • JGood
    R3V OG
    • Jan 2004
    • 7959

    #16
    Originally posted by fdourado
    Maybe the best route for these motors is N/A. I mean, vacmotorsport is managing "well over" 600HP somehow.

    http://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac-...nes-p1448.aspx
    That 600hp+ engine is likely a fully built race engine that's getting torn down after every weekend. And probably costs $20k+

    Guys have slapped a turbo on a stock m60 and got 600+hp. You'd probably struggle to do it with a S/C, but I still think boost is the best option for hp/$.
    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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    • Jean
      Moderator
      • Aug 2006
      • 18228

      #17
      Yep, those are NOT street vac m60s LOL
      Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



      OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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      • fdourado
        Member
        • May 2012
        • 81

        #18
        Originally posted by JGood
        That 600hp+ engine is likely a fully built race engine that's getting torn down after every weekend. And probably costs $20k+

        Guys have slapped a turbo on a stock m60 and got 600+hp. You'd probably struggle to do it with a S/C, but I still think boost is the best option for hp/$.
        Yea I can only assume you're on borrowed time as soon as you start those up lol. But still, I'd be interested to see how they achieved that number (what pistons, rods and bore they have). As far as I've read, there's not much after market support in terms of building one of these to be high compression, right?

        Boost is definitely the best bang for your buck when it comes to power.
        -Filipe

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        • garagistic
          Forum Sponsor
          • Apr 2011
          • 1712

          #19
          With all this supercharger talk, we may need to bring a super charger bracket to the market!

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          • JGood
            R3V OG
            • Jan 2004
            • 7959

            #20
            Originally posted by garagistic
            With all this supercharger talk, we may need to bring a super charger bracket to the market!
            I'll be first in line.

            Unfortunately the crank pulley is still an expensive part (I think ~$500 from ESS?), so if you can put a S/C in the A/C location and run it off of the factory crank A/C pulley, and have a tensioner setup that works reliably, that's the recipe for affordable power (I don't really consider the $5900 for the ESS kit affordable...)
            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
            e30 restoration and V8 swap
            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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            • Stitche30
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 64

              #21
              If you guys were to make s/c bracket I'd buy it. Bought your engine mounts and they were of fantastic build quality for a great price. I'd also offer to be your test mule for that shit.

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              • mark///m3
                Wrencher
                • Oct 2007
                • 287

                #22
                Originally posted by Stitche30
                If you guys were to make s/c bracket I'd buy it. Bought your engine mounts and they were of fantastic build quality for a great price. I'd also offer to be your test mule for that shit.
                Id be in for a bracket if somebody designed one!

                ___________________
                Mark

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                • garagistic
                  Forum Sponsor
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1712

                  #23
                  We are on it. ;)

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                  • The Dark Side of Will
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2796

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JGood
                    I'll be first in line.

                    Unfortunately the crank pulley is still an expensive part (I think ~$500 from ESS?), so if you can put a S/C in the A/C location and run it off of the factory crank A/C pulley, and have a tensioner setup that works reliably, that's the recipe for affordable power (I don't really consider the $5900 for the ESS kit affordable...)
                    I was at the Washington Auto Show yesterday. The Ford section had a cutaway display of the GT500 engine. It makes 600+ HP via an Eaton supercharger.
                    The roots blowers are less efficient than centrifugal, so for a given mass flow and pressure the drive power requirements will be higher for roots than for centrifugal....

                    But the blower drive on that engine only turned the SC and had a 10 or 12 rib belt (I didn't count, but it was much wider than the normal accessory belt). Take that as an indication of the kind of drive you'll need to turn a supercharger moving 600 HP worth of air.

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #25
                      Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
                      I was at the Washington Auto Show yesterday. The Ford section had a cutaway display of the GT500 engine. It makes 600+ HP via an Eaton supercharger.
                      The roots blowers are less efficient than centrifugal, so for a given mass flow and pressure the drive power requirements will be higher for roots than for centrifugal....

                      But the blower drive on that engine only turned the SC and had a 10 or 12 rib belt (I didn't count, but it was much wider than the normal accessory belt). Take that as an indication of the kind of drive you'll need to turn a supercharger moving 600 HP worth of air.

                      Was that directed at me? I have no intentions of trying to get anywhere near 600hp, especially with a S/C.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • Stitche30
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 64

                        #26
                        Got your engine mounts today garargistic! They are great really well put together thanks! Will buy other parts shortly,Click image for larger version

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                        • garagistic
                          Forum Sponsor
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1712

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Stitche30
                          Got your engine mounts today garargistic! They are great really well put together thanks! Will buy other parts shortly,[ATTACH]65931[/ATTACH]
                          Glad you like them. Please leave a review on our website under this part. Theres a tab that says reviews:
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                          • garagistic
                            Forum Sponsor
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1712

                            #28
                            We are about to list this car on ebay this week. Its a great car. Lots of fun, but its time for garagistic to get into bigger and better things with e30 cars.

                            What do you guys think the car is worth as it is today?

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                            • Vtec?lol
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 3278

                              #29
                              I hope more than $8k as that's the least i'd like to get for mine when I'm done

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                              • The Dark Side of Will
                                R3VLimited
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 2796

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JGood
                                Was that directed at me? I have no intentions of trying to get anywhere near 600hp, especially with a S/C.
                                I guess I'd inferred from the previous 600 HP comment...

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