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    Revisiting m60b40/zf310 clutch options... new products!

    A few years back, Bruce found that we can mate the e39 540i JB/UUC lightweight flywheel to an m52 clutch kit, and the e34 530i zf310 trans. A few of us did that, using the Clutchmasters fx100 m52 clutch kit. However, mine started slipping after 12k miles, so now I'm back on the hunt. Clutchmasters doesn't have anything above that stage one kit. SPEC makes an m52 kit, and they rate their stage 1 at 345 lb ft, which should be plenty. It's an organic disc so it should operate like a stock clutch. Some other people have done other combinations... but I've yet to see any results after long term and/or abusive driving.

    However, I found that a company in the UK, TTV Racing, has began producing a steel single mass m60b40 and m62b44 flywheel designed to be used with an e36 M3 clutch kit (it has the correct locating dowel and PP bolt hole locations). This is great news, since the e36 M3 uses the ZF310. The flywheel is 16lbs and the price they quoted me was $530 to my door (very cheap compared to UUC/JB, and the same weight). They claim they've sold 40 of these special flywheels already.

    As far as I know, all e36 M3's clutches are the same; Euro vs US, 3.0 vs 3.2, doesn't matter. The Euro e36 M3 has a 321hp engine, which makes around 280whp, more then any stock m60 has made that I've seen. I'd think the stock e36 M3 clutch would hold the m60's torque with no issues. If not, there is a much bigger aftermarket then there is for m52 clutches, so there's plenty of options.

    I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet, but this seems like a very good solution, and I just wanted to share.


    The new flywheel:

    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

    #2
    That is the flywheel I have, you can see it in my build

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      #3
      Originally posted by Yorl View Post
      That is the flywheel I have, you can see it in my build
      I missed that, very nice! What clutch will you be using, stock M3?
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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        #4
        Yup, stock M3 clutch, Sachs

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          #5
          Originally posted by Yorl View Post
          Yup, stock M3 clutch, Sachs
          Unsprung hub, correct? I'm a little worried about that...
          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
          e30 restoration and V8 swap
          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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            #6
            Nice to see more choices! Maybe this is the way to go with 5speed swap.
            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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              #7
              Yes, unsprung hub. We'll see how it works...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Yorl View Post
                Yes, unsprung hub. We'll see how it works...


                Like a light switch, lol.
                Lorin


                Originally posted by slammin.e28
                The M30 is God's engine.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LJ851 View Post
                  Like a light switch, lol.
                  It was my understanding that the springs in a hub and/or the play in a dual mass flywheel is only to minimize chattering, not to have any effect on clutch engagement. Which makes sense, as those tiny springs have less then one inch of movement, so they'd make almost no difference in the acceleration rate of the disc, vs flywheel speed.
                  85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                  e30 restoration and V8 swap
                  24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by LJ851 View Post
                    Like a light switch, lol.
                    We finished an NSX turbo not long ago with solid disc, drives like stock...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Yorl View Post
                      We finished an NSX turbo not long ago with solid disc, drives like stock...
                      Did you install an aftermarket flywheel, or did you use a factory dual mass? Not that's it's 100% relative, since some clutches/transmissions may chatter, while others may not...
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                        #12
                        Steel single mass flywheel, I use nothing else. I've seen too many failures on aluminium flywheels....

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                          #13
                          Yup, stock M3 clutch, Sachs

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                            #14
                            This just for 5 speed, or inc 6 speed aswell?

                            I've been recommended to use this company http://www.clutch-specialists.co.uk/ for Solid Flywheel and twin plate clutch, but £1000-£1,200 it aint cheap.
                            Last edited by GB / John; 10-23-2013, 12:30 PM.
                            E30 318is M60B40 4.0 v8 6 Speed Drift Car Build Project
                            Wisefab e36/e30 Lock Kit, BC Racing Coilovers

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GB / John View Post
                              This just for 5 speed, or inc 6 speed aswell?
                              No, that's the whole point of the compatibility issues and the reason for using the e36 parts. With a 6 speed you can just use the factory clutch and flywheel, or any of the many aftermarket options. The 5 speed never came on an m60b40 car, which is why it's a problem.
                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
                              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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