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    LS Swap guide

    ***This is a WIP. I'll be updating as I get more information***

    LS E30 Swap Guide

    Intro - This guide is for the very basics of swapping an LS into an E30. The tutorial assumes a T56 transmission and a naturally aspirated final install. This tutorial also does not go into choosing an LS engine.

    Chassis modifications

    Minor drive tunnel “clearancing” (read: hammering) required. (TBD - pictures)

    Mounting

    Sikky has a mount kit that includes mounts and an oil pan used to physically mount the engine in the car without contact. (TBD - other mount kits)

    Driveline

    Sikky supplies a telescoping single piece driveshaft. This type of driveshaft enables removal without lowering/removing the rear subframe. (TBD - other mount kits)

    The factory T56 shifter will line up with the factory E30 shifter hole.

    Clutch connections

    A master cylinder conversion is required. The stock master cylinder may be retained.

    TBD

    Steering

    • Power steering - Minimum fabricating new lines. Assistance may be weak. Upgrade TBD
    • If using the Sikky swap kit, a flex disc removal modification is required to clear the headers. TBD (find other options)
    • E36 rack required to clear headers


    Brake System

    By default the brake booster will contact the driver’s side head. Sikky has a boosterless setup or a hydroboost conversion that taps into the factory power steering.

    Cooling

    The factory LS block has cooling system inlets and outlets on the passenger’s side of the motor. As a result, the factory E30 radiator will not work. A suggested upgrade is a larger radiator allotted by the shorter engine. Depending on the LS motor, there may still be clearance issues.

    Fuel system

    The LS engine is a returnless system. There are several options to convert. Some GM fuel filters come with the fuel pressure regulator built in. Another option is to buy a special fuel pressure regulator used to convert to a returnless system.

    An upgraded fuel pump is also required (walbro 255/aeromotive/etc)

    Intake

    New intake piping will have to be fabricated. There are currently no off the shelf solutions.

    Wiring/PCM
    ECU requires reflashing to remove the VATS security system that will prevent startup.
    TBD


    Kit comparison

    Here is the basic comparison between the only E30 kits I could find online


    Comparison: The VSR kit requires an oil pan. The sikky pan is also high capacity so that helps oiling issues. The sikky kit also comes with a telescoping drive shaft instead of having to get your own. The sikky kit lacks the diff reinforcements but does come with premade headers. There's no pricing info on the sikky kit yet but the VSR kit is $1200 with the instructional CD.


    Most basic sikky kit



    Best VSR kit
    Last edited by shiboujin; 11-25-2013, 01:07 PM.

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

    #2
    gotdam! can your e30 even hook? i wanna do this badly but with a junkyard 5.3L...

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      #3
      Then do it :)

      Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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        #4
        We already have a swap guide with everything you need to know. Call Garret at 206-218-3839
        E30-LS1 aka. 357is
        email us to pick up our LS1 swap guide
        E30-LS1 KITS now available!!
        E30LS1@gmail.com
        e30ls1.com

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          #5
          I just finished an LS swap into a Soarer, and we used a set of Hooker headers. Fit was awesome and tight, worth having a look for an E30.

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            #6
            Originally posted by garretvs View Post
            We already have a swap guide with everything you need to know. Call Garret at 206-218-3839

            I've updated the write up with the VSR kit information. The VSR kit seems very basic. The sikky kit does everything for you (when the full kit is finally released).

            Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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              #7
              The E30LS1 kit does need an oil pan, you have to modify a stock one by cutting out a section and having it welded in.
              Just a little project im working on
              - http://www.lse30.com -

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                #8
                ^
                yeah, know that the pans are tricky to weld though

                But come on guys Garret has done all the legwork, buy his guide as least

                I would have bought a kit from him but Sikky was local to me and the sump is so pimp
                We're out there in here.

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                  #9
                  The sikky kit also comes with an installation guide from what I'm told.

                  Here's a recent state of mine (sikky kit)

                  Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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                    #10
                    The VSR E30-LS1 kit is 1200.00 plus shipping (40.00 domestic and 180.00 international). The price includes the CD
                    E30-LS1 aka. 357is
                    email us to pick up our LS1 swap guide
                    E30-LS1 KITS now available!!
                    E30LS1@gmail.com
                    e30ls1.com

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                      #11
                      fixed. also here's a link to the sikky group buy on LS kits


                      Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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                        #12
                        Arc Asylum also produces a LSx e30 swap kit. I have all the hard parts in my garage at the moment. Haven't started the install yet though.

                        Kit includes:
                        Engine mounts / Transmission mount
                        Oil pan (front sump Canton pan)
                        Headers
                        Aluminum driveshaft
                        Steering shaft

                        I'm not sure if it's optional, but he also included a pedal adapter for manual brakes / pedal box.

                        Option: header back exhaust

                        Last edited by carlb; 11-25-2013, 04:25 PM. Reason: added detail
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                          #13
                          It says coming soon. Got any pix of the full kit?

                          Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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                            #14
                            Jesus... it also says $3500 for the kit. That's damn expensive and not really competitive... at all.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jalopi View Post
                              Jesus... it also says $3500 for the kit. That's damn expensive and not really competitive... at all.
                              The kit includes an oil pan, drive shaft and headers. I believe that's the brunt of the cost. Other kits require those things but don't come with them. Considering that and the fact no one else makes those off the shelf parts for the LS swap, I think it's very competitive.

                              Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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