Denny's M62B44 swap (MS2 installed First start VIDEO inside)

[gmont02@yahoo.com]

I am just having most difficult time troubleshoot my DME 474 with the starter, it may be the EWS. I sure do wish I had tested the unit before scrapping the 740.

anywho... this MS components list was made by whom? the sales guy?

also i may have some luck this weekend to get it running, idk

[Denny]

The website is www.diyautotune.com the contact is : Matt Cramer

Here is the quoted 2 options he put together for me:

Here’s a quote for a pretty complete system with the ECU/Stim un-assembled:

MS230-K $279 Megasquirt-II kit with V3.0 PCB
3 MK-BIP373 $25.50 Extra spark output mod kits ($8.50 each)
JimStim-K $59 JimStim Stimulator kit
MSHarness $67 8' wiring harness
IATwPiggy $22.25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor
38NPT-Bung_A $9 Aluminum bung for IAT sensor (Also available in stainless steel)
TuneCable $5.50 6' DB9 tuning cable
USB-2920 $22.50 (Only needed if your laptop doesn’t have a true DB9 port)
2 IGN-4 $137 Four tower coil packs
2 IGN-4_Conn $12 Connectors for IGN-4
Subtotal without wideband-- $638.75

And here’s a quote for a pretty complete system with the ECU/Stim assembled:

MS2357-C $445 Assembled Megasquirt-II with V3.57 PCB
MOD_2357IGN4: Quad Ignition Outputs through BIP373 coil drivers $86
MOD_x357-VR_IN: Jumper Main Input for VR $0
JimStim-C $88 Assembled JimStim diagnostic board
MSHarness $67 8' wiring harness
IATwPiggy $22.25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor
38NPT-Bung_A $9 Aluminum bung for IAT sensor (Also available in stainless steel)
TuneCable $5.50 6' DB9 tuning cable
USB-2920 $22.50 (Only needed if your laptop doesn’t have a true DB9 port)
2 IGN-4 $137 Four tower coil packs
2 IGN-4_Conn $12 Connectors for IGN-4
Subtotal without wideband-- $894.25

The other option is a custom MS2 or MS3 from "whodwho" but the guy is busy as hell!! :(

[gmont02@yahoo.com]

is there a link to where you are purchasing the MS components?

[Denny]

I ordered the Garagistic headers and at the same time been busy removing every single wire on the engine and mapping out Wiring diagrams since I decided to build all the wiring from scratch and going the MS2 route with Wasted Spark and Batch Fire (should make for a ULTRA clean wiring setup with full tuning and reliability and less of BMW costly parts)

First thing was to find the M62B44 firing order so I can plan out wasted spark so here it is:

Firing order...
1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

4-------------8
3-------------7
2-------------6
1-------------5
Front of engine

--wasted Spark setup---

COIL

A 1 - 6

C 5 - 3

B 4 - 7

D 8 - 2


4 post Coil packs


COIL PACK 1 = A + B

COIL PACK 2 = C + D

[Old city bimmer]

nice project. Sub'd

[gmont02@yahoo.com]

Bump Bump....

like im really going to res a 5-9 yr old thread. Garry doesn't even look at his msges.



the bitch is in, not going to let up now this far along.

[gmont02@yahoo.com]

seeing that WDS was a nightmare to look at but have learned to how to use it has brought great help. yet has not brought insight on my 96 m62 with auto engine loom.

also had the DME flashed from https://www.rpmmotorsport.net/ to avoid the EWS mess. did not get to test the unit upon return.

want to learn how megasquirt works, Sub'd

[Denny]

The flywheel is a 60-2 wheel as well, you can see the teeth right there in your pictures behind the flywheel, it should work exactly the same. I'm planning to use the stock coils, again will let you know how that works. You do need external drivers to run the stock coils, but if you are going to get a "PNP" from someone, that should be built in. The drivers are there in the stock ECU case, you could use them.

Your right about the CPS on the flywheel...I should just use that.
I'm going to go wasted spark..in the long run those BMW coil on plugs cost a fortune (8 of them will cost more the the whole MS2 and coils..

[smalcol]

This is pretty awesome... cant wait to get started! Please share...at anytime this thread is for everybody to share their experience I'm all for that. Thanks for the tip on the 6-speed trigger..since its there may as well use it but will MSx recognise that kind of wheel?....I know the 60-2 that comes with the M60 in the front is recognised easy with even MS2 and then there would be no need for the VR on the cam... ditch the expensive coils and go wasted spark 2 x 4 coil pack with custom cut wires..

The flywheel is a 60-2 wheel as well, you can see the teeth right there in your pictures behind the flywheel, it should work exactly the same. I'm planning to use the stock coils, again will let you know how that works. You do need external drivers to run the stock coils, but if you are going to get a "PNP" from someone, that should be built in. The drivers are there in the stock ECU case, you could use them.

[Denny]

Oh right, pretty sure I bought a booster delete from you a few years ago for my racecar lol.
It was only 210+tax. Pretty good deal to shorten, weld flange, and balance. I had bought a donor car, so I just brought them both driveshafts.

Yes I remember you for sure. I sold you the Massive booster delete.

that's a wicked deal on a custom driveshaft wow!! wish I had the front flange of the E39 now :( I could of done the same as you and visit my parents at the same time while they build it.

[Chris916]

Oh right, pretty sure I bought a booster delete from you a few years ago for my racecar lol.
It was only 210+tax. Pretty good deal to shorten, weld flange, and balance. I had bought a donor car, so I just brought them both driveshafts.

[Denny]

Awesome! Gonna be cool to see another v8 e30 in the area. I'm just in the process of finishing up my m60 swap. Should be on the road in a few weeks. I'f you're looking for a shop to modify the driveshaft for the 6 speed, I just brought mine in to Ottawa driveshaft 2 days ago, and its already done. Picking it up tomorrow!

Your from Ottawa ...nice!! I'm in QC city now...I moved 2 years ago I was in Orleans/cumberland area for many many years...I soooo miss living in Ontario :( Im here for my GF family and support for my son..if it wasnt for that I would still be there. How much did it cost you? problem is I dont have the driveshaft flange of the E39..

[Chris916]

Awesome! Gonna be cool to see another v8 e30 in the area. I'm just in the process of finishing up my m60 swap. Should be on the road in a few weeks. I'f you're looking for a shop to modify the driveshaft for the 6 speed, I just brought mine in to Ottawa driveshaft 2 days ago, and its already done. Picking it up tomorrow!

[Denny]

Be a little careful... I @$$ume that the OBDI 6 speed does not have the crank sensor boss. Some people get their engines and transmissions from different donor cars...

good catch....

for me I am using the 6 speed from the E39 my M62 came from.

[Denny]

Sub'ed...:popcorn:

I'm excited to see another Canadian V8 E30. I'll be pulling out my M60B40 to replace it with a OBD1 M62B44 this winter also.

Sweet! I'm in to see what you can do with it

Nice, that's essentially what I'm doing, simplified management using MS3. I'm fairly far along and can share what I find once you are setting up the MS.

If you are using the 6-speed, you don't need the front pulley trigger, it has the sensor mount location there already at the flywheel. Unless you just want to change it? I'm using it, I expect it will work.

This is pretty awesome... cant wait to get started! Please share...at anytime this thread is for everybody to share their experience I'm all for that. Thanks for the tip on the 6-speed trigger..since its there may as well use it but will MSx recognise that kind of wheel?....I know the 60-2 that comes with the M60 in the front is recognised easy with even MS2 and then there would be no need for the VR on the cam... ditch the expensive coils and go wasted spark 2 x 4 coil pack with custom cut wires..