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    New E30 owner, 86 325e and 87 325 Sedans! Found a dirt cheap M60...

    Hey guys, I figured I would post up here and see what you think about the path I'm planning for my second E30. The subject matter got me thinking here would be a good spot. Please move if inappropriately placed.

    I've been searching for a platform for a project car for 2-3 years and for an E30 for a solid year. Iv'e been a car enthusiast for almost a decade but I've never actually done something crazy. It all started when my son was born about a year ago. I never really had my father around while I was growing up. I had no one to teach my how to be a man, or do manly things. I've taught myself everything over the years (thank you internet) but I don't want my son to have to learn the hard way. I want him to have mechanical work and house work to be second nature, if he's mechanically inclined like I am... He shall be a force to be reckoned with. These cars will teach me more than I could ever imagine about how to do and work with almost everything car related.

    Anyways enough with the ramble. I bought a 86 325e and a 87 325 sedans both. 86 runs great but has rust. 87 has the most immaculate body I've ever seen (looking through builds for a year.) But no engine, used to be an M20. So for now the plan is use 86' as a fun car and complete 87'. Then switch project cars. My wife will probably end up driving the 86, I constantly talk about cars and she usually glazes over. I told her I wasn't feeling well and she should drive the runner home. She gets out and says some of the most amazing things to me " Wouldn't it be awesome if we had matching E30's?" and "I really like this car! It feels so good and handles better than SiSi!" (2009 civic si) So this may have just turned my wife into a car girl *prays* Anyways, there's a 95 540i on CL for $350 no title. I would buy the 540, strip it in a weekend. Throw the motor where ever I could, junk chassis, and begin selling off parts to recoupe my costs. I think I could make money on it!

    Now what I'm worried about is cost because it most defiantly is a factor. I bought one of these cars to be cheap and most bang for my buck. My Integra was too cheap feeling and this seemed like the best option for me. I would honestly be happy with 200 RWHP, as it would be more than anything I've owned. I'm not trying to break the internet, or impress anyone. But the only thing that has me skeptical is the MPG. I'm building this car simply to enjoy driving. Maybe attempt to slide it at a drift event once a year, and do another autox. But I'm mostly building it to be a cruiser and canyon carver.


    Good lord I talk a lot, if you've made it this far thank you for your patience. I will do my best to scour more of these forums and attempt to arrive at a decision.


    Thank you all, Thor
    Eve- 86' Black E325 Sedan
    Mjolnir- 87' White 325 Sedan
    Rusty- 85' White 325 Coupe

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    Oh, and if I were to do the swap, I'm planning on grabbing the engine, ECU, Harness, brake booster, radiator and hoses, and Trans. What else would you recommend? I'm reading a swap thread on here as I type but just wondering. Can I swap rear end and steering rack? would it add anything?

    Again, thank you!
    Thor
    Last edited by thorhack; 03-15-2016, 07:38 AM.
    Eve- 86' Black E325 Sedan
    Mjolnir- 87' White 325 Sedan
    Rusty- 85' White 325 Coupe

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      #3
      Originally posted by thorhack View Post
      My wife will probably end up driving the 86, I constantly talk about cars and she usually glazes over. I told her I wasn't feeling well and she should drive the runner home. She gets out and says some of the most amazing things to me " Wouldn't it be awesome if we had matching E30's?" and "I really like this car! It feels so good and handles better than SiSi!" (2009 civic si) So this may have just turned my wife into a car girl *prays* A
      Ha, my wife has a '12 SI and she refuses to drive the Bimmer. She did surprise me once by getting upset when I said that I would sell my 88 to my brother once my 86 was finished.

      She asked why I would ever sell it, to which I responded why do you care? She admitted that she likes riding and the car and enjoys how much fun it is.

      I have hopes of getting her out on a track one day, either in her Civic or my 325, but we'll see....

      Good luck with your project!
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        #4
        Is the 540i a manual or auto? If it's an auto, the harness will work but you will have lots of extra wires. The good news is that you can remove all of the auto related wires from the harness!

        The rear end and steering rack likely won't work in the E30, I've never heard of anyone doing that swap at least. E30 diffs are pretty robust, and most people do E36 or E46 rack swaps.

        If you are looking for 200whp, why not do an S5x swap that would likely be significantly less work? I'm not trying to dissuade you from a V8 swap here, just curious.

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          #5
          Looks like you have a good start on things, if that 540i is in decent shape I would buy it quickly, you should be able to easily make your money back. Hopefully it is a manual car then you would really have a steal!

          I agree with jpod that no need to swap the rear end or steering rack for the e34s. There are multiple options on racks e36/e46/z3.

          Good luck, I would much rather have a v8 than a 24v just for sound alone! Your 200whp goal should be no problem either.
          1987 325i-M60b44 swap

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            #6
            That's a little strange how it's a Civic si and everything! haha. Well good luck to getting your wife on the track! I always tell mine I'll build her a rally car since she drives on dirt like a madwoman!


            And it's an auto unfortunately, my only motivation is coolness factor and cheap! I know an engine swap is pretty much the polar opposite of cheap. But I have a way of making my money work for me usually. I sold my automatic integra to fund all 3 of these car purchases. Plus some extra money for maintenance of the runner.

            And Jpod, what about it is so much easier? Motor swaps seem pretty daunting to me, at least if it's not the stock engine.

            Thank you for the responses!
            Eve- 86' Black E325 Sedan
            Mjolnir- 87' White 325 Sedan
            Rusty- 85' White 325 Coupe

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              #7
              if auto, i wouldn't touch it unless you have a good budget. cheap need not apply here. i hope you don't plan on putting an m60+auto in your e30. what a waste of all that work to end with an auto. those autos are shit too, m60 e34s with autos dyno way less RWHP than manual cars, and you'll have to get it rebuilt at some point, they don't last very long.

              here is a quick price guide for reference:
              buying a 6-speed is $700-1000. buying a 5-speed is $300-500
              Flywheel/clutch is another $500-1000
              Throw in needed swap parts like motor mounts, trans mount, headers, custom driveshaft is easily another $1000

              you actually get very little for your swap from that donor e34.
              and i've parted an e34 before. if its in good shape, you may make $1000 parting it, but its a pretty slow part-out. if it has any big-ticket items like sport seats, mtech bumpers, or nice wheels you could get a little more.
              Last edited by straight6pwr; 03-15-2016, 09:41 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by thorhack View Post

                And Jpod, what about it is so much easier? Motor swaps seem pretty daunting to me, at least if it's not the stock engine.
                The 24v swap is extremely common and has been documented like crazy. You can also get people to mod the harness so that it is plug and play which removes a lot of the planning work.

                The V8 swap is significantly more involved, but if you aren't on any sort of time constraint then who cares?

                Since you are seemingly new to E30s I just wanted to make sure you knew about the swap options. Take some time, read through some build threads here in the V8 swap section as well as the 24v swap sections to get an understanding of what's involved. Make a decision from there and have fun!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jpod999 View Post
                  The 24v swap is extremely common and has been documented like crazy. You can also get people to mod the harness so that it is plug and play which removes a lot of the planning work.

                  The V8 swap is significantly more involved, but if you aren't on any sort of time constraint then who cares?

                  Since you are seemingly new to E30s I just wanted to make sure you knew about the swap options. Take some time, read through some build threads here in the V8 swap section as well as the 24v swap sections to get an understanding of what's involved. Make a decision from there and have fun!
                  Truth, although garagistic makes an adapter plug that makes it much easier although it costs about $200 or so.
                  Originally posted by csermonet47
                  Vlad, you are handling this quite unprofessionally.

                  Also, you are a cock with tacky taste.

                  That is all.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jpod999 View Post
                    The 24v swap is extremely common and has been documented like crazy. You can also get people to mod the harness so that it is plug and play which removes a lot of the planning work.

                    The V8 swap is significantly more involved, but if you aren't on any sort of time constraint then who cares?

                    Since you are seemingly new to E30s I just wanted to make sure you knew about the swap options. Take some time, read through some build threads here in the V8 swap section as well as the 24v swap sections to get an understanding of what's involved. Make a decision from there and have fun!
                    Sweet, thank you man. That is what I wanted to hear! I am a complete noob to E30's hand on experience speaking. I've read 8 V8 swap threads so far, I especially like the college kid one! haha I also have a time constraint of 2 years. I believe I can get that done within that time frame. Luckily I have many friends that are more skilled and knowledgeable when it comes to these cars.

                    And Straight6power, There's no way I would spend close to that on any of those parts. Haha, I usually have a way of finding deals. I'm not going to be buying pretty much any of this from people who know what they have. If I can make $1000 off the part out I'll be set to buy another 2 E30's haha. It would go swimmingly!

                    I am checking out the 540 tomorrow. Should have it towed here and stripped by next weekend, wreckers will take the frame. Then I begin the inventory and listings of...dear lord...so many items lol.
                    Eve- 86' Black E325 Sedan
                    Mjolnir- 87' White 325 Sedan
                    Rusty- 85' White 325 Coupe

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by blck325is View Post
                      Truth, although garagistic makes an adapter plug that makes it much easier although it costs about $200 or so.
                      I just noticed this recently, I think they just introduced this right?

                      This would definitely make the swap easier, although I think there is something to be said about knowing exactly how your adapter is wired in case something goes wrong later on down the line.

                      OBDI M62B44/6 swap
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jpod999 View Post
                        I just noticed this recently, I think they just introduced this right?

                        This would definitely make the swap easier, although I think there is something to be said about knowing exactly how your adapter is wired in case something goes wrong later on down the line.
                        This, I've read too many horror stories about people getting harnesses made. "Paid some guy $200 and one wire was off, had to dig into the harness and individually test each one."
                        Eve- 86' Black E325 Sedan
                        Mjolnir- 87' White 325 Sedan
                        Rusty- 85' White 325 Coupe

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