No power to fuel pump after removing the pump?

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  • Nick_S
    No R3VLimiter
    • Apr 2011
    • 3658

    #1

    No power to fuel pump after removing the pump?

    Been a long time since I posted on here, still have my car 15 years later. Yes I did search and found some similar topics but most revolved around first time swaps.

    I have been chasing a slow start issue for a bit. My car is a 91 318is with an M50NV swap. It's pretty basic, essentially didn't change anything from the original car except the motor and have been using a PNP harness adapter the whole time. It's been in there for 12 years and has barely given me an issue in the 45K miles I've put on since the swap.

    The car would usually take 2-3 decent cranks to start and would then sputter to life and then run perfectly fine. Behaved like it lost fuel pressure every time I turned it off. It's been doing this for a bit and I recently got tired of dealing with it and wanted to find the issue. I replaced a few things like fuel filter, CPS, tried different relay's etc. Whenever I would completely fill the tank the symptoms would usually disappear at first and then reappear once I ran about an 1/8 of tank out of it. I started to wonder if I had a loose line that was letting the fuel pressure bleed once it was turned off so I decided to pull the pump over the weekend.

    I pulled the fuel pump fuse to bleed the system before disconnecting the battery and pulling the pump out. I replaced the odd connector from the pump to the metal line with some solid fuel hose and reinstalled. Once I got everything button back up I went to turn it over. The car cranks just fine but the pump wouldn't prime. I rechecked everything, tried again and still nothing. I started digging around with my multi meter and quickly found I had no 12v power at the fuse box for the pump, all other accessories work fine. I tried a different relay, no change. I checked for power at the relay and have 12v at terminal 30 and when I jumped to terminal 87 I have 12v there but still nothing at the fuse. I then pulled the engine/body harness apart and checked pin 13 that should be the wire for the fuel pump and got like 1.2v so something in between the relay and there.

    I'm asking because I'm quite stumped as to why this worked perfectly fine before a simple battery disconnect and now is an issue.

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    91 318is M50 swapped
    05 Honda Pilot

    24V swap thread
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524
  • 82eye
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2009
    • 2064

    #2
    if the relay gets power on pin ,87 but none at the pump, check or replace fuse 11. replace it outright, they can look good but still fail. if that doesn't do it check your fusible link.

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    • Nick_S
      No R3VLimiter
      • Apr 2011
      • 3658

      #3
      Originally posted by 82eye
      if the relay gets power on pin ,87 but none at the pump, check or replace fuse 11. replace it outright, they can look good but still fail. if that doesn't do it check your fusible link.
      I did replace the fuse.....fuseable link? I was unaware there was one, where is that typically located? Thanks for the tip!
      91 318is M50 swapped
      05 Honda Pilot

      24V swap thread
      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524

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      • 82eye
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2009
        • 2064

        #4
        Originally posted by Nick_S
        I did replace the fuse.....fuseable link? I was unaware there was one, where is that typically located? Thanks for the tip!
        it's a 50amp fuse or link direct off the battery. if it breaks your dme won't work or let the car fire and run. it'll just crank.

        edit: https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/for...t-you-speak-of

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        • Nick_S
          No R3VLimiter
          • Apr 2011
          • 3658

          #5
          Found that fuse able link. Sadly still very much intact and has 12V on both ends of it. Search continues
          91 318is M50 swapped
          05 Honda Pilot

          24V swap thread
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524

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