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    Anyone running custom EMS on an M50/S50 etc

    Anyone whos done the M50/S50 etc conversion running on a custom EMS? Im not talking a chipped standard ECU!

    Any probs uncovered?
    ///M Inside

    #2
    Not done it my self to an M50/S50 but the best bet would be a piggy back ECU like the unichip.

    If you go for a stand alone ECU you need to make sure it can control the VANOS and those are expensive(Motec) !

    Andy

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      #3
      Im also planning just piggyback. I just want to be able to change the fuel and timing maps for when I am running on 100 octane. I'll let the DME deal with the rest of the shit.

      There is soo much tuning involved in running standalone. Barrett has been working on his for a long ass time. The nice thing is I get his coils because most OBD coils are odd impedences so its easier to pick them to go with your tuning.

      Question 2 is why?
      Im now E30less.
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        #4
        Originally posted by E30/M30
        Not done it my self to an M50/S50 but the best bet would be a piggy back ECU like the unichip.

        If you go for a stand alone ECU you need to make sure it can control the VANOS and those are expensive(Motec) !

        Andy
        arent you running one on your M30 swap?
        ///M Inside

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          #5
          Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
          Im also planning just piggyback. I just want to be able to change the fuel and timing maps for when I am running on 100 octane. I'll let the DME deal with the rest of the shit.

          There is soo much tuning involved in running standalone. Barrett has been working on his for a long ass time. The nice thing is I get his coils because most OBD coils are odd impedences so its easier to pick them to go with your tuning.

          Question 2 is why?
          Throttle response, Economy, Power (not much more i know), flexibility for future mods..

          I'm assumin that it would be much easier on a non VANOS...
          ///M Inside

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            #6
            The BMW DME is the most complex in the world. When they came out the ones for m50tu were years ahead, hell, look at the new m5, that thing's DME could run the Space Shuttle.

            I would just use a piggy back.

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              #7
              throttle repsonse?

              The OBD1 DME is plenty fast and hardly a hinderance. The only thing between you and the throttle plate is a little steel cable. A piggyback will do plenty to give you control.

              If you really want a peaky engine just get a non vanos and get cams. Bore and stay as underswuare as possible and get individual TBs. That will be all the response you need.

              /edit: wait a second, you are in England. You have more than enough repsonse. Just get the damn S50B30.
              Im now E30less.
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                #8
                Oversquare surely?

                Which engine is the S50B30?! Im still trying to get used to all these engine numbers!!
                ///M Inside

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                  #9
                  For you it would be the non-evo E36 M3. Over there yours had ITBs and such.

                  Sorry, I had that backwards. The oversquare design will be plenty rev happy.
                  Im now E30less.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jhonno
                    Originally posted by E30/M30
                    Not done it my self to an M50/S50 but the best bet would be a piggy back ECU like the unichip.

                    If you go for a stand alone ECU you need to make sure it can control the VANOS and those are expensive(Motec) !

                    Andy
                    arent you running one on your M30 swap?
                    Yes but there's no VANOS to worry about.

                    It's going to be a big help to me when i swap over to the E28 M5 TB's as it will only need a remap to cope with the change.

                    This is the ECU that i'm useing

                    Home of the Emerald K6 aftermarket standalone ECU (Engine Control Unit) or EMS (Engine Management System)! Emerald K6 ECU is fully user manageable through our easy-to-use software. Plug & Play or Wire-Up engine management and tuning for professional car racing and hobbyists.


                    Andy

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by E30/M30
                      Originally posted by Jhonno
                      Originally posted by E30/M30
                      Not done it my self to an M50/S50 but the best bet would be a piggy back ECU like the unichip.

                      If you go for a stand alone ECU you need to make sure it can control the VANOS and those are expensive(Motec) !

                      Andy
                      arent you running one on your M30 swap?
                      Yes but there's no VANOS to worry about.

                      It's going to be a big help to me when i swap over to the E28 M5 TB's as it will only need a remap to cope with the change.

                      This is the ECU that i'm useing

                      Home of the Emerald K6 aftermarket standalone ECU (Engine Control Unit) or EMS (Engine Management System)! Emerald K6 ECU is fully user manageable through our easy-to-use software. Plug & Play or Wire-Up engine management and tuning for professional car racing and hobbyists.


                      Andy
                      ahh yeah emerald - good stuff!!

                      I know yours doesnt have Vanos btw was just commenting on the use of a custom EMS
                      ///M Inside

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