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  • payney8
    E30 Modder
    • Jun 2007
    • 899

    #1

    This will toggle some brains

    Hi, girlfriends car wont start. She got it hot and kept driving it till it died. I went and picked it up towed it home. Let it cool over night. Now with a good battery in it in cranks but wont start. It wont hold much coolant as there is a split in the thermo housing somewere. Any ideas? it is a 1989 318i. :wgaf:
  • 87e30
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2008
    • 5676

    #2
    Check your oil... probably blew a headgasket at first and then did more damage if it now won't start. I'll bet there is coolant in your oil.
    Originally posted by z31maniac
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    • payney8
      E30 Modder
      • Jun 2007
      • 899

      #3
      Nope no coolant in oil. Oil smells burnt as hell though and inspection of the upper end shows lots of burnt oil. So its been very hot. engine cranks and still has alright compression.

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      • Mossman
        E30 Mastermind
        • Apr 2006
        • 1961

        #4
        it sounds like it has alright compression or you compression checked it?

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        • payney8
          E30 Modder
          • Jun 2007
          • 899

          #5
          Compression checked it about 105 all around

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          • payney8
            E30 Modder
            • Jun 2007
            • 899

            #6
            any thoughts?

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            • Kerrath
              E30 Addict
              • Jun 2008
              • 577

              #7
              105?... Shouldn't it be more like >160?
              Seems way off.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34839

                #8
                Originally posted by Kerrath
                105?... Shouldn't it be more like >160?
                Seems way off.
                it's not the absolute # that is important, it's the difference between cylinders. the absolute # doesn't mean anything because how it's tested can vary from engine to engine and person to person.

                if they were all 105 his compression is fine. if one cylinder was 80 and the rest were 105, then he'd have something to worry about.
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                • Farbin Kaiber
                  Lil' Puppet
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 29502

                  #9
                  Sounds mind boggling.

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                  • calz4m
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 96

                    #10
                    My bet is the headgasket is blown. Remove the plugs and check them. You can also crank the motor when the plugs are out and look for coolant. Don't be leaning over the motor when someone does this as coolant could shoot out of the spark plug hole(s). Trust me, its happend to me once before. Luckily car was cold, as yours will be. Can you elaborate on the circumstances surrounding the initial overheat? Perhaps with all the information we can make a more educated diagnosis. Did it dump all of its coolant? Did the oil pressure light come on?

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                    • Kerrath
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 577

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nando
                      it's not the absolute # that is important, it's the difference between cylinders. the absolute # doesn't mean anything because how it's tested can vary from engine to engine and person to person.

                      if they were all 105 his compression is fine. if one cylinder was 80 and the rest were 105, then he'd have something to worry about.

                      When they're supposed to be like 160+ and he's netting 105, there's gotta be bad rings or valve seals involved or something.

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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34839

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kerrath
                        When they're supposed to be like 160+ and he's netting 105, there's gotta be bad rings or valve seals involved or something.
                        but you don't know they are supposed to be 160+. maybe he didn't crank it long enough, maybe the engine was cold, maybe he didn't hold the throttle open.
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                        • SpecM
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4531

                          #13
                          and the engine would still start and run, even with low but even compression

                          not well, but it would start

                          OP: its an m40 I assume? (you live in Oz, so you get euro engines, yes?)
                          1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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                          • Fast Frankie
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 336

                            #14
                            you mentioned "now with a good battery". Do you mean to say the battery went out at the same time as the overheat? Why was the battery replaced?

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                            • Kerrath
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 577

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nando
                              but you don't know they are supposed to be 160+. maybe he didn't crank it long enough, maybe the engine was cold, maybe he didn't hold the throttle open.
                              I asked the internet, it told me M42s are specified as 160+. Additionally, every thread of compression test results I found shows the PSI as being between 155-220. Nothing anywhere near that low.

                              Maybe he didn't crank it long enough, maybe it was cold, sure, but if that screws up the pressure as much as it did, then it definitely doesn't make for an accurate diagnosis of compression variances.

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