Traction

[Jay325]

I will be installing a 92 M50 in a couple months. I am wondering what types of mods people have done to their current motors and how the E30 responds to all that power, as far as traction is concerned? What type of horsepower numbers should I be looking at for a goal? Either all motor or FI before it becomes "uselss power" (if there is such a thing)

[Ryan Stewart]

Youd have a long way to go for useless power (more than you would get NA without major internal work). I have an S50 and I have trouble in the first couple gears but once I get moving in 2nd It goes like stink. That is usually the case for all powerful cars, traction control just kills the trottle until its getting traction, you can do that with the throttle/clutch.

M50+turbo/60%lockup diff= fun

[Bryson]

never had problems really with any variant of 24v motor (no FI yet) with good 205s in back or any 225s (m50, s50, I don't think Jason has trouble with his girly tires and m52)

[Stu]

not too much trouble here..well, some. 205 width 350+ treadwear and a 3.0 motor.

[PeterCip]

I got over 300hp to a set of 225s and a 2.93 lsd.. first gears a joke but if you throttle it correctly you won't have any problems. tire wear is greatly increased and the cars a joke when it rains..comes with the territory.

[Brew]

The car handles the power well w/ upgraded suspension and decent condition brakes.
Unless you add FI, you'll do just fine with some sticky 225's.

[george graves]

with my m30 (bone stock) and restrictive exhaust (stock m20 exhaust) I can break 1st loose when ever I want, and the second offten times too.

It's been raining alot here - and when that happens, I'll almost break 3rd loose too.

[Bryson]

by breaking loose you mean....

it all varies on your tire size and brand .. and throttle/clutch application, it's not a pissing contest of who can lose traction easier.

look at me! I can't even chirp second unless it's pouring

[Stu]

with my m30 (bone stock) and restrictive exhaust (stock m20 exhaust) I can break 1st loose when ever I want, and the second offten times too.

It's been raining alot here - and when that happens, I'll almost break 3rd loose too.

That's because all the weight is on the front. :P

A 'hammerstand' will break loose 1st or 2nd violently, that is if you use the throttle as an on-off switch. I can comfortably drive my car at full chat in the lower gears without wheelspin, but you have to use that thing called throttle modulation.

[E30-323ti]

I have 245/40 R17 sport contacts on the rear w/3.91 & soft springs,
full throttle in 1st gear = wheel spin
full throttle in 2nd gear = slight wheel spin
full throttle in 3rd gear is fine unless you are going around a corner, then it does the open diff thing.

If it is wet you take the wifes civic, 4th gear wheel spin gets boring pretty quick.

[Bryson]

I have 245/40 R17 sport contacts on the rear w/3.91 & soft springs,
full throttle in 1st gear = wheel spin
full throttle in 2nd gear = slight wheel spin
full throttle in 3rd gear is fine unless you are going around a corner, then it does the open diff thing.

If it is wet you take the wifes civic, 4th gear wheel spin gets boring pretty quick.

shhhhhh ;)

[gstuning]

I had T1´s in 245/35-17 and stiffer then stock supsension and very little traction problems

When I had crappy 225/50-15´s I could loose traction in middle of the car at WOT

I have a Euro S50 244rwhp

[Chris E30 Cab]

Re: Traction

I will be installing a 92 M50 in a couple months. I am wondering what types of mods people have done to their current motors and how the E30 responds to all that power, as far as traction is concerned? What type of horsepower numbers should I be looking at for a goal? Either all motor or FI before it becomes "uselss power" (if there is such a thing)

A stock M50 only gets 190hp at the crank........that's not a large increase. Even if you stroke the M50 you'll be fine.