are these headers stock? (continued PICS!!)

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saw what looked to be an e30 in a small body shop/salvage yard next to my g/fs house today. went up to up, and was surprised by the "323i" emblem on the back.
i proceeded to look under the bonnet, and saw these headers, (i love camera phones) are these stock headers? i've never see stock ones that lok like that before..

if they are something special, would they fit an "i" engine? (if so, would they do any good?)
the owner says it was imported from europe,
if i recall, i;ve never seen a 323 in US before, was it a euro only (not us) car?

[butlertron]

Shouldnt be stock, but they'll fit your m20. I dont know if they have a bung for the 02 sensor though. That 323i has some hot ish in there. The intake manifold has the shortest, fattest runners available for an m20 for more top end, the head is a complete bolt on e to i swap for dished piston eta's. Euro 323i 264 cam. Good stuff. Did I mention that e30 323i's were euro only? They are. If its a 5 speed look for a close ratio dogleg 5 speed, 1st will be down and to the left. Pillage it.

[kowalski]

the picture isn't wokring for me:( i want to find somthing special like that! :(

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heres link to pic..

http://image28.webshots.com/28/7/13/42/261271342OiUdnE_ph.jpg

reeeaaalllyy, so like, i kinda found something good, it's good too, cause i really do not think this dude knows what he has, ,


so ur telling me, i could basically swap the head from 323 to my "i" block, and have more top end (wow...)

and if not the head, i could atleast swap the intake manifold and the headers... swweeettt..... why would the headers not have an O2 sensor spot?

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sry bout that link, this one should work

http://community.webshots.com/photo/215441694/261271342OiUdnE

this is the pic of those headers

[Rigmaster]

Look like headers to me. They should fit right on your 325i, but may or may not bolt right up to the rest of your exhaust.

What butler was saying is that the head could be used on an "e" motor for some benefit- it's not gonna help your 325i motor at all. The headers don't have an O2 spot because it's a header, the sensor is probably farther down the exhaust.

Any more pics of the whole car??

Bret.

heres link to pic..

http://image28.webshots.com/28/7/13/42/261271342OiUdnE_ph.jpg

reeeaaalllyy, so like, i kinda found something good, it's good too, cause i really do not think this dude knows what he has, ,


so ur telling me, i could basically swap the head from 323 to my "i" block, and have more top end (wow...)

and if not the head, i could atleast swap the intake manifold and the headers... swweeettt..... why would the headers not have an O2 sensor spot?

[kowalski]

iv got headers and its got an 02 sensor in the header, its at the end of the header right before it joins to the exhuast. its a 318is

[Rigmaster]

iv got headers and its got an 02 sensor in the header, its at the end of the header right before it joins to the exhuast. its a 318is

You have aftermarket headers on your E30 318is?? Or the stock exhaust manifold- which is pretty much a stainless tubular header?

Most aftermarket headers from the early-mid 80's either don't have an O2 sensor bung, or they have it somewhere down the line- can't usually be seen from the engine bay.

Bret.

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so, those DO look like after market headers, which in turn SHOULD give me a little performance :)

i can post more pics of the car tom, the salvage yard is liek right beside my g/fs house


and was butler also saying that i could use the intake manifold as well?

it';s fatter and shorter then the one on my 2.5i?

those are the 2 things i'm really interested in, also, is there anything special about the transimission in it besides that first is in seconds position, and second is in first (and so on)

thanks

[hotghias]

if it's really a 323i, you could pull the head and sell it to an eta guy for a profit. i've also heard some talk about the 323i cam being hotter than the 325i's cam.

so the 323i was not sold in america? i've never seen one. if it's some kind of a grey market euro car, see if it has euro bumpers which you could also pull and sell for a profit. i'm sure there are other euro tidbits that people over here go after, too.

if you're getting a lot of parts off it, you might as well see if you can buy the whole car from the yard.

[bkelsey86]

First of all here are all teh things on that car that are hard to get and worth some serious doh.

A. The disrubutor on the drivers side of the block is very rare and often go for $100 or more used.
B. The whole upper half of the engine is unique and was only available in Europe.
C. The spark plug wires are very long because the distributor is on the drivers side of the car so once again these are very rare.
D. If it has euro bumpers grab them
E. Any other euro things such as gauges, check panels, and grills will also be worth money.

Oh and by the way do you think you can somehow take off the cam gear I'm gonna need one eventually.

Oh and I think the 325i intake manifold actually flows better then the 323i i think the 323i's is somewhere inbetween the 325e and the 323i but basically the same as a 325i's.

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cool, thanks for the tips on everything, i;'ll go look at it again tom..


so i would be better of keeping my intake mani then swapping out? poo.. i got excited about that,

ill get sommore pics tom and post them,

why is the distributer so special?

[bkelsey86]

Because it is a mechanical distributor which is turn by a gear off the oil pump. It is ran by L-jetronic instead of motronic so only fuel is electronically controlled. All other e30's have the distributor on the end of the head on the cam gear and it is electronically controlled. The distributor will be down low on the block on the drivers side of the engine.

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drove past there today, guy was not home so i could not get into the gate,

but the car DOES have euro bumpers on it,., will check for other stuf tomorrow

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sry took so long, here are the pics of the euro 323i just sitting there,

so, conclusion is, those look like aftermarket headers (that of course will fit my 2.5 m20?



and was wondering (more opinions) about that intake mani, it DOES look shorter then 2.5/27 intake manis, is it fatter as well? (u know what i'm asking)

and there are the pics of the distibuter.. is there any point is having that (other then it look cools/euro?) and there was no shifter knob on the shifter, so i could not see the shift order of the transmission to see if it was that special one ya'll were talking about (first is where second is, second is where first is ect.)

http://community.webshots.com/album/270032374xTEhqS