factory "comfort" air conditioning option?

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  • pogiboy9
    E30 Addict
    • Dec 2003
    • 475

    #16
    Ok 1 thing, the guy who said There is no climate control blah blah blah cause he has 2 e30s, i'm not saying your wrong neither am i saying your right. Although assumption that our cars wont have climate control because of its age then why would it have onboard computers and sunroofs when cars in teh 90's didn't even have those? so count out the fact that our cars are old. And about you having 2 e30s...like i said before unless your the original owner and actually took care of your car you can't guarantee anything will work you get what i'm saying....

    how obserd would it be that, that lil thing would be the heat ventilation ..... the whole bottom side of the center console is open.....better take a better look don't you think? actually open it up and see whats behind it ?...

    And mercedes benz did have climate control back then also even in the 79.
    http://www.decal-spec.com

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    • pogiboy9
      E30 Addict
      • Dec 2003
      • 475

      #17
      Originally posted by christophbmw
      Originally posted by pogiboy9
      haha my 325e also had climate control.... don't you love it how much we're more advanced than most cars in teh 80s?
      oh not mercedes, you should see there climate controls in the sl (107) chassis cars in the 70's. biggest mess ive ever seen, uses vacum and electrical systems WAY to complex.
      Lol .... complex? .....i take it you haven't seen a jaguar....even now ..... go open a jaguar @ a junkyard or look for pix for its wiring ....you'll understand why they're called lemons
      http://www.decal-spec.com

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      • Brew
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2003
        • 3060

        #18
        Originally posted by pogiboy9
        Ok 1 thing, the guy who said There is no climate control blah blah blah cause he has 2 e30s, i'm not saying your wrong neither am i saying your right. Although assumption that our cars wont have climate control because of its age then why would it have onboard computers and sunroofs when cars in teh 90's didn't even have those? so count out the fact that our cars are old. And about you having 2 e30s...like i said before unless your the original owner and actually took care of your car you can't guarantee anything will work you get what i'm saying....

        how obserd would it be that, that lil thing would be the heat ventilation ..... the whole bottom side of the center console is open.....better take a better look don't you think? actually open it up and see whats behind it ?...

        And mercedes benz did have climate control back then also even in the 79.
        You don't have to believe us, I honestly don't give a shit.

        Just know that you're wrong. ;)
        '91 318is
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        • Jarvis
          R3VLimited
          • Nov 2003
          • 2132

          #19
          I don't have to check all 2.4 mil E30s ever produced to tell you that there is no factory climate control. The "control" is the driver manually opening the 3 different types of vents the amount they want (via cables, attached to plastic flaps) and adjusting how much of the incoming air is directed over the heater core (temp dial). It's not an exact science. The car does not monitor the cabin's temperature at all. This thread is gay.

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          • bmwdude
            Wrencher
            • Feb 2005
            • 268

            #20
            Originally posted by Jarvis
            I don't have to check all 2.4 mil E30s ever produced to tell you that there is no factory climate control. The "control" is the driver manually opening the 3 different types of vents the amount they want (via cables, attached to plastic flaps) and adjusting how much of the incoming air is directed over the heater core (temp dial). It's not an exact science. The car does not monitor the cabin's temperature at all. This thread is gay.
            Sir, you are just as on the extreme end of the scale (wrong), as your accusuations imply, which are also justified (because those too, would be extreme.

            In any case, I will write to you a quote from the E30 Bently manual. "The compressor is engaged by an electro-magnetic clutch that is actuated when the AC is turned on. The thermostat switch automatically disengages the clutch when the temperature in the passenger compartment reaches the level set on the operating controls.

            The whole purpose of this thread however was not to discuss the AC that came as STANDARD EQUIPMENT in MOST E30's, here in Canada anyways. It was to discuss why in my BMW accessories brochure 96/97, there seems to be an OTHER possible AC available, aside from the one that came as STANDARD EQUIPMENT. In Europe, even the basic AC was an option.

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            • bmwdude
              Wrencher
              • Feb 2005
              • 268

              #21
              Guys, I apologize for bringing this back up, but for the sake of learning something new(?), a "newbie" over at e30tech.com, posted a reply to the same category and topic that I have posted here. He's not registered here yet, but I did ask him to do so, and perhaps post that interesting answer of his to my question of, IF an other AC unit was ever offered to our E30's, rather than the traditional one we are familaiar with.

              His answer writes about a more sophisticated AC unit, being available in Europe, but not in NA BMW dealerships. Go over there and read it!! Maybe he is wrong....maybe he is right!!! :!:

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              • pogiboy9
                E30 Addict
                • Dec 2003
                • 475

                #22
                E36 also has that sniffer thing.
                http://www.decal-spec.com

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                • Bryson
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1490

                  #23
                  Originally posted by pogiboy9
                  E36 also has that sniffer thing.
                  have you actually looked behind the panel or are you just speculating because that's the only purpose you can see that to have

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                  • Bryson
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1490

                    #24
                    Originally posted by pogiboy9
                    Ok 1 thing, the guy who said There is no climate control blah blah blah cause he has 2 e30s, i'm not saying your wrong neither am i saying your right. Although assumption that our cars wont have climate control because of its age then why would it have onboard computers and sunroofs when cars in teh 90's didn't even have those? so count out the fact that our cars are old. And about you having 2 e30s...like i said before unless your the original owner and actually took care of your car you can't guarantee anything will work you get what i'm saying....
                    On a properly maintained car everything will work correctly, you don't have to be the original owner! I can guarantee that everything on my car works, and you should be able to do the same. Anything that does not function correctly, is probably due to me and I know exactly what is wrong.
                    And to note, you are indeed saying that Brew is wrong, don't claim to be on both sides. If you're going to quote him, don't quote him incorrectly and with "blah blah blah" in the middle of it, that's utterly disrespectful, especially to someone who seems to be displaying more intelligence than you currently are.
                    We may indeed be wrong, but until you come up with something more than a hunch or a claim, we are going to tell you that there is no climate control.
                    Supply a wiring diagram of this if it indeed does exist. If you don't have a scanner, you could take a picture of it with a digital camera or find someone else with a scanner.

                    Originally posted by pogiboy9
                    how obserd would it be that, that lil thing would be the heat ventilation ..... the whole bottom side of the center console is open.....better take a better look don't you think? actually open it up and see whats behind it ?...
                    excuse you? Are you accusing me of making a judgement about an e30 piece without any experience. You're going to have to have a much better attitude than that to go at established members of the e30 community.

                    Originally posted by pogiboy9
                    And mercedes benz did have climate control back then also even in the 79.
                    congradulations to mercedes :?: so?

                    edit: I checked the ETK and there does appear to be some sort of 'climate control' available on e30s, though it does not appear to be the same as you described. It shows use of a vacuum system connected to an interior temperature sensor and a "fuel flow resistor"
                    The temperature sensor however has its own cover and bracket, which leads me to believe that the inlet is not the 'nipple' in the center console

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                    • Stu Mc
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4083

                      #25
                      bird dog 'em, frankie

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                      • e30Matt
                        R3V Elite
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 5077

                        #26
                        "No! I'm the biggest E30 nerd on this site, god dammit!"

                        "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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